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14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by yojo »

xattt wrote: post #169
spicybright wrote: post #135

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I actually like the throwback, personally. I'm guessing they did that to differentiate it in the market. What I have trouble getting over is the flipping notch to the top. Just why. The bezel on my 2019 macbook looks the same, if not skinnier. Do people really not watch fullscreen videos anymore or something?

I’m wondering whether the notch was supposed to be for Face ID, but they couldn’t make it work due to current supply chain constraints, and that notched displays were already ordered.

It could also be they planned it this way and will add it to next year’s model. That way they can advertise new “must-have” features for upgraders without redesigning the case/OS

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Post by pier25 »

more_corn wrote: post #195
Eric_WVGG wrote: post #162

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USB-C adoption mostly went fine, though. Or as fine as could be expected. I think the past five years can be more easily explained with — ironically — a Steve Jobs quote: > When we were an agrarian nation, all cars were trucks, because that's what you needed on the farm. But as vehicles started to be used in the urban centers, cars got more popular … PCs are going to be like trucks. They're still going to be around,…

Really? USB-C adoption went fine? I have never seen a usb thing that I found superior to what it replaced. I see a lot of dongles though.

5 years after the 2016 MBP and the only device I have with USB-C is my Android phone.

All my PC peripherals still use USB-A.

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Post by BoxOfRain »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #162
mrtksn wrote: post #143

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My guess is that Apple bet on something that did not materialise, it wasn't about Jony Ive not caring about user feedback. What was the bet you say? I think they bet that the shift to USB-C/Thunderbolt/Wireless will happen quickly and they can help with the push and increase their margins. IMHO It wasn't a design decision but a business one and I think the removal of mag-safe is a giveaway. Every little thing that th…

USB-C adoption mostly went fine, though. Or as fine as could be expected. I think the past five years can be more easily explained with — ironically — a Steve Jobs quote: > When we were an agrarian nation, all cars were trucks, because that's what you needed on the farm. But as vehicles started to be used in the urban centers, cars got more popular … PCs are going to be like trucks. They're still going to be around,…

>(do they still make Mazda Miatas?)

They're called MX-5s here in the UK and I see them everywhere, unsurprisingly because it's in the spirit of an old British two seater but unlike the Triumph Spitfire or MG Midget it doesn't break down all the time and isn't essentially hygroscopic.

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Post by lostmsu »

abledon wrote: post #61
calebm wrote: post #52

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I have an M1, and I was unable to install tensorflow in a docker container on the M1 host (as of last time I tried, a few months ago).

I run tensorflows yolov4 no problem on m1 macbook air, cool thing is that you can fit larger models in memory than if you had a 8GB NVIDIA Card

Training or inference? How's training performance compared to 8GB NVIDIA, if you have one?

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Post by afandian »

bitcurious wrote: post #26

Two charging question for owners: 1. can you still charge over usb-c or are you forced to use MagSafe? 2. Is the other side of the magsafe cable usb-c or is it glued to the brick? I rather like not having extra cables/charging blocks.

This was answered in the article you're commenting on. But what wasn't addressed was that the charging cable costs FIFTY QUID (I don't know what that is in BUCKS) but ... that's a lot for a stupid cable.

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Post by drdaeman »

porcc wrote: post #4
moneywoes wrote: post #2

Do ARM compatibility issues still exist?

Close to no https://isapplesiliconready.com/for/developer

I wonder about games, and sadly this website doesn't list any.

I want a new laptop and those new M1 MBPs look interesting, with low TDP high performance. I primarily use it for development and browsing when I'm not home (I have a family overseas), but I also want to play games now and then.

I know Steam has native ARM support and some games I play are ported as well, but I really wonder how much can I get from double translation layers (x86 to ARM + Wine or derivatives).

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Post by spicybright »

electric_bike wrote: post #192
spicybright wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually like the throwback, personally. I'm guessing they did that to differentiate it in the market. What I have trouble getting over is the flipping notch to the top. Just why. The bezel on my 2019 macbook looks the same, if not skinnier. Do people really not watch fullscreen videos anymore or something?

You should look into the actual implementation of the notch and I think you'll be pleased! Imagine the exact same screen as your 2019 macbook pro, but instead of black bezel on the left and the right of the camera, you have the menu bar instead. Everything beneath the notch is the same size as the screen on previous laptops, so the notch allows for extra space beyond the 16x10 that you're used to. This means when not…

Aside from me thinking it's visually distracting,

I get the argument, but if I was really concerned with screen space I'd just get a model with a bigger screen.

For my own workflow, I use almost the whole top bar for tool/automation shortcuts, so this is cutting a chunk of my space for such a tiny amount of space added.

Right now it's hanging past the left side of my webcam.

If it does black out the notch for videos though, then that's a lot better, ty for that info.

Does keeping the top bar black essentially hide the bezel? Or does it just make it not stand out as much?

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Post by spicybright »

lowbloodsugar wrote: post #199
spicybright wrote: post #170

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Absolutely. I run into this all the time with my phone's screen (likely a different ratio, but I almost never have it not cover video. If there's a program that will literally add black padding until the notch goes away I'd probably use it, at least when watching media.

There is. It's called macOs. The screen is 16:10 and then the menu bar, with the notch is extra space on top of that . I can't even be frustrated with you. This is so humanity. "I hate what they did! If only they had done this instead!" They did do that. They talk about that a lot. The article talks about that. They solved the problem in a way so obvious that it's what random people on the internet come up with, but…

I'm not saying apple is inferior and everyone else is wrong. I'm saying that for my own individual workflow, on my current macbook, this is a bad compromise.

I keep a large amount of tools/macros/shortcuts in my status bar, and this will cut through the middle of that.

I'd rather have thin black bars around my 16:10 video then lose that screen real estate for the status bar.

It is a bad compromise for how I use my current macbook.

I'm certainly in the minority, and that's fine, but I'm just trying to argue my side and understand other people's, not scream till I'm red in the face until I get my way.

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Post by tasogare »

schaefer wrote: post #95

If it was above board to download and run MacOS in VMWare as a guest under my linux host (slowdowns because of arc differences forgiven), I'd be way more willing dip a toe into the ecosystem and see how I like it...

If you were really curious you would use MacOS bare metal as shipped out of the box, with Linux running in a VM instead of wishing for premises you know won't happen.
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