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Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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Post by dang »

RNCTX wrote: post #43
Guthur wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And places like Sydney are expensive in no small part because of issues like negative gearing and zoning controls, all in direct control of the government. Also the government is under no incentive to change the status quo because like any good mafia they take their cut of every transaction with stamp duty "oh you two want to trade, where's mine?".

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Please stop posting flamebait/or unsubstantive comments to HN, and please stop using the site for ideological battle. You've been doing this repeatedly lately, and we ban that sort of account—regardless of what they're battling for or against—because it destroys what HN is supposed to be for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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Post by 0max »

robertlagrant wrote: post #65
dgunay wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So many of their recent films with worldwide acclaim are about rampant classism and economic inequality. Even as someone not super in touch with Korean social sentiment, I still get the feeling that Koreans are getting super fed up with their status quo. Might not be "having an effect" so much as "reflecting the way they feel".

Given most people are not super-wealthy, popular shows are much more likely to have been sympathetic to that view. No one wants to watch a show that says "Actually things are pretty good compared to how they were, and still improving, and while there are a few really rich people in the world, it wouldn't change your life for the better if they didn't exist."

I think the "actually things are pretty good" view are most of the K-Dramas you run into on MBC and KBS based on what I've seen over the air.

Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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Post by 0max »

treme wrote: post #170

The Korean Confederation of Trade Unions are known for their thuggish ways. They frequently resort to violence, harassment and coerce all those that stand in their agenda. within last year, they harassed a manager of delivery logistics company to commit suicide (specified and detailed harassment he faced on his will), cut off fuel valve of a delivery truck for not participating in their strike, and beat up a strike b…

So did the teamsters and Jimmy Hoffa back when Nixon debased the gold standard and unions needed a workaround for the Federal monopoly on violence. (see "I Heard You Paint Houses")

Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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Post by dang »

mathverse wrote: post #55

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Please don't take HN into ideological or (especially not) nationalistic flamewar.

Usually when people post like this, they have some personal connection to the country they're flaming. That's a different context than outright prejudice but it still doesn't make it ok to post like this to HN.

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Post by justshowpost »

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Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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Post by sudosysgen »

Markoff wrote: post #152

So less than 1% South Korean population, that doesn't strike me as very general strike. Also 0.5M (1.8%) out of 28M economically active population doesn't sound much bigger. 98% SoKo workers DGAF

2% is huge for a first strike. Absolutely huge. You only need around 3% to shut down an economy.

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Post by sudosysgen »

dash2 wrote: post #26
ginko wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not aware of anywhere that attempts to socialise housing has worked well. In Vienna about 25% of the total housing stock is public housing[1]. It's the main reason why rental prices are significantly below other European capitals[2]. [1] https://www.huduser.gov/portal/pdredge/pdr_edge_featd_articl... [2] https://www.statista.com/statistics/503274/average-rental-co...

Bold claim about causality there. Have you got a research design to back it up?

It's pretty bold to ask for a scientific study to prove that 25% of housing being rented at a low price lowers the price of rent.

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Post by sudosysgen »

beaconstudios wrote: post #124
imtringued wrote: post #123

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Yes, ignore Marx, there is absolutely nothing to be learned from him. Just solve the work piling prisoners dilemma and you get the "utopia" part of communism (fair involvement of workers) for free.

Marx only provided the critique of capitalism and said that historical materialism (the analysis of history as being contingent on material conditions, ie resource allocation) led him to believe capitalism would inevitably collapse into socialism and then communism through the proletariat winning class conflict. All the USSR shit is mostly Lenin, AFAIK.

Not even Lenin. Lenin ran the USSR as a mixed economy with heavy market involvement. It's Stalin that really defined the dysfunction of the later USSR.

Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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Post by sudosysgen »

ekianjo wrote: post #144

> Nationalize key industries and socialize basic services like education and housing. Oh. Nobody ever told them how bad things go when you do that ?

I mean, not so bad. Education is nationalised here in Quebec, and so are key industries such as energy production, while housing is socialized in the form of aggressive rent controls and serviceable (though not expanded enough by recent governments) public housing.

We even ran a budget surplus for a fair while with these programs.

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Post by mathverse »

dang wrote: post #214
mathverse wrote: post #55

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Please don't take HN into ideological or (especially not) nationalistic flamewar. Usually when people post like this, they have some personal connection to the country they're flaming. That's a different context than outright prejudice but it still doesn't make it ok to post like this to HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I dont see anything ideological or flamy. This is my experience with living with and among koreans for a very long time.
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