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FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews

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Stop trying to make no passwords happen. It won't happen

It can happen, I've seen many Lightning Network applications that do account creation/login and identity verification using LN wallets/nodes/etc. I wouldn't consider those solutions passwords in the traditional sense.

Public key authentication would be a great replacement for most passwords.

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Is it much of a hassle to get your money back or is it a single paper to file?

I call Amex, tell them my story, get money back immediately 'pending investigation', and never hear another thing. Don't abuse it, they have top notch investigation. When you spend on a credit card, it's not your money they're stealing. I've used it probably 5 times in 10 years, and never had a problem.

I second this. Rented a house on VRBO. Arrived to find a rundown flop house and had to find other accomodations for my family (3000 miles from home on minutes notice). VRBO has zero consumer protections or support for renters. I got taken for $2200. Since I paid with a debit card...screwed. Amex from now on.

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FTC has to do a LOT of modernization. We have Truth in Lending, the BAR association, Consumer Reports*, but we've lost Journalistic rigor, Logic, and Critical Thinking.

There's a LOT of Qualification 'shorthand' that's been lost in the race to the bottom for the democratization of data distribution. Carrying a Professional Engineer cert in Civil Engineering is a VASTLY different qualification than carrying a CISSP cert.

While this seems to have wandered from fake reviews, its part and parcel to the loss of integrity, where internet communications come into play.

Re: FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews

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FTC has to do a LOT of modernization. We have Truth in Lending, the BAR association, Consumer Reports*, but we've lost Journalistic rigor, Logic, and Critical Thinking. There's a LOT of Qualification 'shorthand' that's been lost in the race to the bottom for the democratization of data distribution. Carrying a Professional Engineer cert in Civil Engineering is a VASTLY different qualification than carrying a CISSP ce…

I’m not sure that the trade commission should be chartered with (nor made powerful enough to be) fixing the broader evolution of how humans consider and manage trust, but I do think they should be concerned with truthfulness matters specifically around trade.

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I imagine large-scale slander campaigns in the form of fake reviews was probably much more difficult, costly, and risky prior to the internet.

Or easier.

How so?

The internet makes it easier to hide your identity, automate attacks, and reach a large audience at practically no cost.

For example, if I want to influence Skippy peanut butter's review score online I can just leave fake reviews on a few dozen products on a few dozen websites with a few dozen (maybe hundred) fake accounts. Alternatively, I could make up something on social media and hope it goes viral. If I wanted to do the same in the physical world I'd have to pay for some massive marketing campaign which would trace right back to me.

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FTC has to do a LOT of modernization. We have Truth in Lending, the BAR association, Consumer Reports*, but we've lost Journalistic rigor, Logic, and Critical Thinking. There's a LOT of Qualification 'shorthand' that's been lost in the race to the bottom for the democratization of data distribution. Carrying a Professional Engineer cert in Civil Engineering is a VASTLY different qualification than carrying a CISSP ce…

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Can't answer your question, but give advice. Get good with Amex or Chase, and buy everything with a credit card. Anymore I don't even worry about such scammers, I just get my money back and move on.

Is it much of a hassle to get your money back or is it a single paper to file?

I would add to the other poster - I use visa, and it is easy as well. I call, report a scam/fraud. Within 10 days the money is back on my card. I have never had an issue with this process.

Re: FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews

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FTC has to do a LOT of modernization. We have Truth in Lending, the BAR association, Consumer Reports*, but we've lost Journalistic rigor, Logic, and Critical Thinking. There's a LOT of Qualification 'shorthand' that's been lost in the race to the bottom for the democratization of data distribution. Carrying a Professional Engineer cert in Civil Engineering is a VASTLY different qualification than carrying a CISSP ce…

> we've lost Journalistic rigor, Logic, and Critical Thinking.

Take off your rose colored glasses and read your history more critically and you will realize that we never had it to begin with. Oh there were a few good journalists, some who knew logic, and sometimes people used critical thinking. However people are the same as people over all time. If anything we are slightly - just slightly better. We just remember the good parts of the olden days and forget the bad.

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Generally I'd say product reviews are one of those ideas like passwords that work but don't survive introduction to the general public and mass use. The problems of authenticity are obvious, but I've also noticed that people who rely on word of mouth from their friends and colleagues are generally happier. And why wouldn't they be? A colleague tells you this e.g. monitor is perfect for your line of work so you get it…

I will read online reviews over the salesman's bs any day. So many bad experiences, I don't trust them no more.

Re: FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews

#220

FTC has to do a LOT of modernization. We have Truth in Lending, the BAR association, Consumer Reports*, but we've lost Journalistic rigor, Logic, and Critical Thinking. There's a LOT of Qualification 'shorthand' that's been lost in the race to the bottom for the democratization of data distribution. Carrying a Professional Engineer cert in Civil Engineering is a VASTLY different qualification than carrying a CISSP ce…

> we've lost Journalistic rigor, Logic, and Critical Thinking. Take off your rose colored glasses and read your history more critically and you will realize that we never had it to begin with. Oh there were a few good journalists, some who knew logic, and sometimes people used critical thinking. However people are the same as people over all time. If anything we are slightly - just slightly better. We just remember t…

More accurately, that snake oil salesman could only reach the people he parked his wagon in front of. It's not the content, it's the reach.
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