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HN is vastly concerned about privacy and screaming about FB transgression on these issues etc., but the top post here is about disseminating private information of 10's of thousands of people.
Link to the leak: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/83691438 Top 10k Streamers by Revenue: https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam Contains the following data points: 'ad_share_gross', 'sub_share_gross', 'bits_share_gross', 'bits_developer_share_gross', 'bits_extension_share_gross', 'prime_sub_share_gross', 'bit_share_ad_gross', 'fuel_rev_gross', 'bb_rev_gross' (TTS donations, 3rd party revenue like OnlyFans, Patreon, Amazo…
Wagies donating to millionaires is probably the funniest thing i can imagine.
Then you have the wisdom pov. This money is going to somebody who is most likely less wise, mainly due to age and lack of education and experiences. The quality of the content that is being rewarded and wether its a good influence for society or for the minds of the young consumers is also highly questionable.
Just pop open the YouTube home page and then think about what someones mind will be made up of if they consume that linkbait garbage for a considerable amount of time. Then add the echo chamber effect of the internet.
It's not a pretty sight. Yet here we are.
As a simple heuristic. Look at the view count of the noble minds video vs SSSniperWolf.
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That's a pretty harsh moral/value judgment on how someone chooses to spend their entertainment money. What about comedy clubs? If I buy a ticket to see Dave Chappelle, who is clearly wealthy, am I sucker too? What about paying cover at my local bar because a local band is playing that night? What about buying tickets to a baseball game, to see a bunch of millionaires play a game for a few hours? You are making it see…
Sorry, I didn't mean that in a derogatory way. I just meant twitch users pay for the sake of giving money to their favorite streamers rather than paying for a product. Strip clubs are the first example that came to my mind, bands or comics also stand. My point was that OP's argument about comparing twitch to movies doesn't make sense because paying for a movie is no different than paying for groceries.
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That's a pretty harsh moral/value judgment on how someone chooses to spend their entertainment money. What about comedy clubs? If I buy a ticket to see Dave Chappelle, who is clearly wealthy, am I sucker too? What about paying cover at my local bar because a local band is playing that night? What about buying tickets to a baseball game, to see a bunch of millionaires play a game for a few hours? You are making it see…
Sorry, I didn't mean that in a derogatory way. I just meant twitch users pay for the sake of giving money to their favorite streamers rather than paying for a product. Strip clubs are the first example that came to my mind, bands or comics also stand. My point was that OP's argument about comparing twitch to movies doesn't make sense because paying for a movie is no different than paying for groceries.
Groceries are necessary for survival, and limited in quantity.
Movies and streams are similar to each other because they are both video content. And as long as the creator of the stream or the company behind a movie get paid enough to make the content they could’ve received no more money and still gotten by fine.
Streams are a little bit different from movies though because much of the audience is actively engaging in conversation with the creator or making requests to them etc. In that sense a stream has an aspect of limited supply to it that a movie does not. At some point the audience of a stream will be too big for the creator to be able to meaningfully interact with all of them, and at a point after that maybe even too big to be able to meaningfully interact with any of them.
And so if you have a lot of people that want to interact with you it makes sense to prefer interacting with the ones paying you money, and to encourage them to do so. And beyond that, it also makes sense to offer “exclusive” content to people that pay. So OnlyFans makes sense too.
What really has me upset though is thinking of the people that are on the audience, among whom some people have little money but also get so little attention IRL that they are paying someone who already has a lot just to interact with them and maybe even being deluded into thinking that they have some form of “real” relationship with them. That is very sad and something I don’t think has been studied enough and is not being talked about enough.
> Some Twitter users have started making their way through the 125GB of information that has leaked, with one claiming that the torrent also includes encrypted passwords, and recommending that users change their passwords to be safe. Twitch just asked me to change password for the first time, so it sounds credible.
Kind of worrying considering my twitch is linked to my Amazon account, and all my banking credentials are linked to Amazon.
does any1 have the link to the leaked password hashes? askin for a friend
Link to the leak: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/83691438 Top 10k Streamers by Revenue: https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam Contains the following data points: 'ad_share_gross', 'sub_share_gross', 'bits_share_gross', 'bits_developer_share_gross', 'bits_extension_share_gross', 'prime_sub_share_gross', 'bit_share_ad_gross', 'fuel_rev_gross', 'bb_rev_gross' (TTS donations, 3rd party revenue like OnlyFans, Patreon, Amazo…
Am I the only one a bit disappointed by the gross earnings for the top 5 earners given how much the media has ben hyping the money made by e-gamers. For some reason I would have thought they would make more money over 2 years. Top earner was grossing $ 9.6M ($4.8M/yr), 10th was $2.9M($1.4M/yr), at 81 you drop below $1M (500k/yr) on twitch pre-tax revenue. After 81 you drop below the %1M over two years threshold. Actu…
It's even more interesting that for 50k gross, you have to beat this guy "DEMOLITION_D" at the #4432 place.