https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_use_of_fire_...
We used to be able to manage this.
Forest Service officials close all California national forests
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#212Was planning to hike the JMT starting tomorrow from cottonwood meadow and ending on the 22nd. Permits canceled at 6pm tonight. Anyone got recommendations for a last minute 20 day off grid vacation? Have car, supplies, ready to go.
Thanks all for the recommendations. Looks like we may link up two longer (6-10 day) hikes and take some time to travel and relax in between.
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#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're into canyoneering, you could just spend a while canyoneering in Zion and camping on BLM outside the park or get one of the walk in spots in the park (which I think you can just keep indefinitely until you decide to check out)
Be flash flood aware when canyoneering out here, though...
No joke, we are in the sights of Hurricane Nora.
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#215Was planning to hike the JMT starting tomorrow from cottonwood meadow and ending on the 22nd. Permits canceled at 6pm tonight. Anyone got recommendations for a last minute 20 day off grid vacation? Have car, supplies, ready to go.
> Anyone got recommendations for a last minute 20 day off grid vacation? Any number of Wilderness Areas in the Rocky Mountain West. Prepare for inclement weather as you might encounter an early season snowstorm.
Can confirm. Got snowed on 9/1 (at 12k') last year in south western colorado.
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#216Perfect timing for Newsom
HN is getting more political. Just something I’ve noticed. Not saying it’s a bad thing, but a reflection of political tribalism.
That's probably a misperception.
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#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t belong to a tribe, but I can still appreciate how horribly run California is.
Okay, I'll take the troll bait. First, California seem to be dealing with the idiots that are the MAGA anti-vax crowd better than most. California isn't currently having people dying of things like pancreatic stones because it takes 6 hours to find an ICU bed. See: Texas and Florida. Second, California has quite a bit more of its population covered by healthcare because it went all-in on the ACA and Medicaid. See: Te…
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#218Can anyone explain this? "So early on, Newsom identified some key wildfire prevention projects, and that includes things like forest thinning and prescribed burns, and they were meant to protect some of the most vulnerable communities in California. And he claimed 90,000 acres were treated, but we found that's not true. The state's own data shows that, in reality, it was less than 12,000 acres, so just a fraction of…
Its basically all Newsoms fault these fires are raging out of control(recently) My family and myself have lived in California my entire life and I have never seen the state in such a state of dysfunction(from environment, to social collapse etc), heres an article that puts the blame solely in his lap: https://www.capradio.org/articles/2021/06/23/newsom-misled-t... Newsom tried to lie his way out by blaming climate ch…
I'm glad to see they're allowing the inmates to actually become firefighters after getting out, looks like up until very very recently you could have spent a bunch of time fighting fires as a prisoner and been shit out of luck after you got out. Shit was gross and exploitative.
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/11/912193742/california-bill-cle...
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#219Literally a year ago , this story was on the front page of Hacker News: https://www.propublica.org/article/they-know-how-to-prevent-...
I don’t understand how a region with some of the smartest people on the planet can afford to excuse public officials abdication of their duties in something as obvious as burning half the state down every summer with smoke visible from satellite and no criticism, healthy or otherwise is tolerated.
This and the drug abuse menace and the serious crime that consumes much of the “progressive” havens of the United States should be a cause for all citizens to question their continued support of administrations that literally burn the country down.
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#220Was planning to hike the JMT starting tomorrow from cottonwood meadow and ending on the 22nd. Permits canceled at 6pm tonight. Anyone got recommendations for a last minute 20 day off grid vacation? Have car, supplies, ready to go.
Humbolt-Toyaibe NF in NV. I think you can avoid the smoke maybe in a mountain range in the South/Central part of the state.
Second this. You could do the Toiyabe Crest Trail and it won’t be as far of a drive as the suggested CO off grid hike. Make sure to check out some hot springs while in NV.