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Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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The only Joe Rogan episodes worth watching are the Tim Dillon ones. If you know, you know. Otherwise, I stopped watching when he moved to Spotify. It's just a terrible platform all-around. He destroyed his brand for $150M.

Tim Dillon episodes are my favorites, but IMO he hasn't totally run out of good guests since the Spotify move. The Dave Chappelle and Quentin Tarantino ones were pretty interesting to watch.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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post #48

To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.

I think he's generally a good interviewer, and I like that he invites people from all sides of the spectrum, if anything, it helps me challenging my own ideas. Also, as a non-american, I feel this is entertaining and give me a glimpse of American culture.

That being said, I've lost interested mostly because his guests have been less interesting (lately, mostly his comedian/fighter friends).

BTW, anyone has good podcasts in the same vein to recommend?

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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post #200

Maybe it's because an election concluded and all news-type media has dropped off considerably. https://thehill.com/homenews/media/551210-tv-news-ratings-on...

Joe Rogan is not “news-type” media by any stretch of the imagination.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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post #146
post #48

To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.

> his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to I listen to his show sometimes, and while I've heard him have guests on from all sides of these issues, at no point have I heard him be anything less than a thoughtful, critical interviewer. If that's "drivel", we need more drivel. I'll certainly take it over everything I see on…

When you have extremists on and don't challenge what they're saying, that _is_ pushing a narrative.

The whole "both sides" thing is the _worst_ of cable news and why I signed off years ago. Does the Sun orbit the Earth? Let's get a crazy person on and see. It's okay because we'll give an expert a few minutes too.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Comedian Bill Burr said it best: "I'm not gonna sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you smoking a cigar acting like we know what's up better than the CDC." [0] That quote is Joe Rogan's shtick in a nutshell. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=tSKVXl-WnrA&t=5m20s

For it to be the schtick that'd have to be sort of the pont of the show, but it's only a topic of discussion so long as it's made relevant by those in our society, and even then that ignores the large diversity of guests and topics in his show.

There's nothing wrong with listening to two regular people have a conversation regardless of their qualifications for the topics they're discussing. They don't pretend to be professionals. (Hence why that quote can be said and why they can laugh about it.)

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Giving a platform to crackpots isn't always dangerous, but in the case of vaccines it's a public health concern. It's definitely not a good idea to give legitimacy to antivaxers during a pandemic when people dying. Save that conversation for another time.

I am a free speech absolutist. The answer to speech you don't like is more speech, not censorship.

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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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post #41

At first I thought he would be ok. His original gripe with Youtube was the censorship of controversial guests. Either he or Spotify prevented most of the controversial videos from being imported into Spotify so I guess the problem remains. Is there a platform that allows any/all controversial guests?

He could use something like peertube or funkwhale.

or joerogan.com

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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post #175

It's been frustrating watching the Spotify (and general movement) with podcasts fragmenting and going exclusive. Spotify won with music because it improved upon the existing state of listening to music and offered a free or cheap solution that was even a compelling alternative to piracy. Podcasts for the most part were in the ideal state for consumers, almost always free and mostly client independent distributed w/ R…

I think the model of giving away Joe Rogan to all users of Spotify (even if not paying subscribers) is worst of all worlds from a business POV.

Think how many people still subscribe and pay over ten dollars a month to listen to Howard Stern. I subscribe to a few podcasts on patreon at $5 just for the few bonus episodes. And I have trouble believing the ad revenue Spotify gets for this is anywhere close to what paying customers could be for them.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Comedian Bill Burr said it best: "I'm not gonna sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you smoking a cigar acting like we know what's up better than the CDC." [0] That quote is Joe Rogan's shtick in a nutshell. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=tSKVXl-WnrA&t=5m20s

This. I just wish he'd take his enormous reach a little more seriously when he entertains quack pseudoscience as if it's an equally valid POV to real peer-reviewed science.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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post #203
post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Giving a platform to crackpots isn't always dangerous, but in the case of vaccines it's a public health concern. It's definitely not a good idea to give legitimacy to antivaxers during a pandemic when people dying. Save that conversation for another time.

I am a free speech absolutist. The answer to speech you don't like is more speech, not censorship.

I'm all for free speech in the sense that you have the right to say what you want without retribution from the government. Free speech doesn't mean you have the right to an audience.
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