EFF Joins Global Coalition Asking Apple CEO Tim Cook to Stop Phone-Scanning

Post by LocalH » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 6:19 PM UTC

simondotau wrote: post #197

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Minors deserve no privacy? Is that what you're saying?

If you're talking about teenagers, I would say there's valid debate to be had. Minors, hell no. There's no debate. Parents are entitled to know—I'd personally go further and say a responsibility to know—what's going on in their life.

Post by brokenmachine » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 5:34 AM UTC

simondotau wrote: post #107

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You haven't heard of how GCHQ would happily hand over intelligence they had on U.S. Citizens? I know for a fact there are efforts at creating fusion centers across national boundaries. The question you need to ask is not if but what will make you interesting enough to mobilize against. Thou shalt not build the effing Panopticon, nor it's predecessors. Is that so hard to not do.

I've no doubt that GCHQ would hand whatever they like to whomever they like. But why would Apple comply with a demand from the GCHQ to spy on US citizens?

Post by brokenmachine » Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 12:16 AM UTC

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> Every step you've described is unfalsifyable: You just have to blindly trust that Apple is doing these things, and that e.g. authoritarian regemes haven't compromised Apple staff with access to the data. So third party auditors as well?

Better than not, but how much can you trust the word of a third party auditor in a world where government intelligence agencies conspire to spy on each other's citizens because their laws expressly prohibit on spying on their own... where the (one time) worlds largest supplier of cryptographic hardware was covertly owned by the CIA and shipped backdoored units for decades, where our national standards bodies make sta…