The gloom and doom posts on HN seem to be increasing lately. I can go to CNN if I want this kind of content. That being said I would be ok with posts talking about fixing climate change especially if it preserves human rights and dignity.
The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance (2020)
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Yes, I sometimes feel like I'm at death's door when jogging outdoors. Myself and some Westerners I know haven't "adapted", even after years being here. The strategy is just always have ice water in hand if outdoors for prolonged time. I sometimes get laughed at for not adjusting to the heat, but I think it's just too much for some genetic lineages from outside tropics. Unfortunately a large percentage of folks in HDB…
I'm in Denmark, when it gets 26 degrees here I drench my shirts in ice water and put in the freezer for a bit and then put on to cool down. I'm guessing, given what a wimp I am about the temperature, a few more degrees and I'm one of the first to die.
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If there’s a heat wave and drought the only way is to dig tunnels and build cities underground. Water can be imported from the ocean (rising sea levels) and desalinated using solar/thermal power above ground and feed an aquifer!
What is actually going to happen is displacement. The hundreds of millions of people most vulnerable to the consequences of climate change don't have much choice but to start walking. The 2015 refugee crisis in Europe was nothing compared to that, never mind the tiny trivial inconvenience that is current illegal immigration across the Mexico–US border.
What happens when people from India, the middle east, ... are forced to relocate? I expect some kind of conflict/war of expansion and probably famine since a lot of the land will be abandoned and hence become unproductive.
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#214It's hilarious to me that people somehow think hot is MUCH more dangerous than cold. If you do any homework you will see which end results in more deaths.
And yet, a lot more populated areas on the globe are susceptible to heat waves than to cold waves.
All-in-all 10 times more people die from cold every year (according to the study) than from heat.
[1] https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5...
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I imagine once the first big wave where a nation hits the wetbulb temperature and there is a mass die off you will see panic in surrounding nations and they will scramble to a border. What will nations do with millions of people knocking at the fence wanting in? Uncertain times for sure.
I imagine this happening only in the least well-run countries. In any country with a functioning military, they'll probably organize a mass operation of moving people into temporary refugee camps in cooler areas of the country or into caves, underground structures etc. For people who won't be moved, they'll provide food and water for them so that people don't need to leave their hiding places during the day. (Also, I…
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#217The gloom and doom posts on HN seem to be increasing lately. I can go to CNN if I want this kind of content. That being said I would be ok with posts talking about fixing climate change especially if it preserves human rights and dignity.
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People who own a car in Yakutsk must leave it running all winter, or the oil will freeze & cause engine damage. A toolbox is always present in the car, since being stranded on the road, without cell phone signal, will lead to death within a couple of hours. Having a part of your ears exposed for 15 minutes will lead to frostbite. Cold is no joke...
Couple notes from someone who lives somewhere less cold than Yakutsk, but still cold: * Synthetic oil won't really ever freeze. Other car components will freeze up prior to oil ever freezing - notably the battery will freeze if it's cold enough, which will permanently damage it. Most any other car component won't suffer permanent damage from cold. * A toolbox isn't the best option to rely on if you're driving in a re…
From ~ 8:43 in the video: "The scariest thing about being on the road is that people whose cars break down have a risk of dying if they cannot fix it within 30 minutes. Otherwise, engine oil under the hood freezes in minutes. If people get stranded in these rural areas with no phone signal, they have no choice but to freeze to death within a couple of hours. That's why every driver carries a toolbox in his or her car."
He mentioned engine oil freezing a few times throughout that video.
Perhaps their information & strategies are outdated, or perhaps there's some specifics to Yakutsk that is different from your circumstances. The people there seem to recognize changes in temperature based on the visibility & other heuristics, where it's recognized that a 10 degree Fahrenheit difference in temperature is something to consider.
Perhaps you have some innovations that could help these people. The PLB seems like a good idea, though 30 minutes does not seem like enough time for a search/rescue effort. Either way, it's interesting to see how people adapt to their circumstances.
I've watched documentaries on Mt. Everest ascents where the climbers faced brutal cold, wind, & avalanches. Perhaps gear adapted to the conditions of the tundra could be an effective "survival pack" enabling people to survive for a few more hours should a car be stranded.
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#219Kim Stanley Robinson's recent book The Ministry For the Future starts with a very disturbing scenario: A heatwave with a "web bulb" temperature of 35 Celsius. It turns out, in those temperatures, even young and healthy people can't survive. Combined with power outages, as happens in the book, everyone living under such a heat wave will likely die. It's looking increasingly likely that such heatwaves are possible in t…
That’s the climate changed world.
Re: The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance (2020)
#220Kim Stanley Robinson's recent book The Ministry For the Future starts with a very disturbing scenario: A heatwave with a "web bulb" temperature of 35 Celsius. It turns out, in those temperatures, even young and healthy people can't survive. Combined with power outages, as happens in the book, everyone living under such a heat wave will likely die. It's looking increasingly likely that such heatwaves are possible in t…
What will the vegetation and animal life look after such a heat wave? Mad Max desert? Or are they so much better adapted that it won’t be a problem (I don’t think so)