The time limitations is just sad. Seems like the UX is pretty good but having a 24 hour auto-archive just makes me apprehensive to ever use them.
It's not just 24 hours - it can be one hour, or three days or a week.
If you pay, yes.
Discord Launches Threads
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#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
Personally, I'm waiting for Matrix to implement Zulip-like threads (and a client that looks like Quassel).
Does the matrix protocol require modifications to get zulip-like threads?
Yup, I believe this is the latest proposal: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2836
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#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
They aren't. Its a common system to only have the server owner and maybe 1 or 2 other people with the administrator permission. I personally run a 5k user discord with only me as the admin, and like 90 mods who can do varying levels of things. Why discord didn't make it default to on for people with manage_messages i don't understand.
I cynically think that they wanted to make it a bit hard to disable threads so people would experiment with the feature on rollout. Otherwise they would have enabled the feature and defaulted it to off. I found out that we had threads enabled when someone created a thread.
More likely all the developers who tested the rollout were admins on the servers they were testing on so nobody foresaw this problem
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#214In my opinion the best app similar to Slack but organised around the thread communication is Twist ( https://twistapp.com/ ). It's disappointing that it's so hard to convince the companies "management" to switch from chaotic Slack communication to something better for async and organised communication because clients are used to Slack... The same applies to Discord as it's just the most accessible way, everyone uses…
I tried to switch our company over to Twist, but just found it lacking in a bunch of management/control functionality that's offered in Slack (data retention, fine-grained control over permissions, etc) and some UI polish.
I hope they'll improve though, would love to switch to Twist. Their model for async work and threads is awesome!
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#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know this is being downvoted, but I find it genuinely interesting how much negative fervor there is towards threads. So it's a useful contribution to me! I use Slack threads everyday. I've only heard of one person in our org (or in any org I've been in prior that used slack) who had strong opinions about threads. Thanks for the very genuine opinion. Perhaps I'll start refining my own opinions about chat app threads…
They suck because Slack's implementation of them suck. It's basically a feature MVP that hasn't been touched in years. Hopefully this Discord feature release will put some fire under them.
And yet I prefer slack threads to any other implementation
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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#216The ideal thread implementation is in Flowdock (which not many people have heard of or use), but it's really the best of both worlds. Everything is a single stream of messages, and you can optionally group things as threads. There is a really nice blending of the two. Here's their implementation and you can see how well this works in practice. http://blog.flowdock.com/2017/08/31/the-1-customer-request-h... Far far be…
> abominations like slack - which hides streams of conversation behind a wall, making the UX terrible. I'm not usually a defender of Slack but this is one of the things I _like_ about Slack threads. Typically in our rooms every discussion is a thread and if I'm not concerned with that particular discussion there's only ever one message and notification I need to dismiss. If I _am_ concerned with it I can opt in to re…
It's discouraged on some Slack servers though, because it's pretty terrible for accessibility.
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> doesn't let you sign into different accounts via private browser windows when you have the client running What do you mean here? I have multiple discord accounts that I have logged in at once. One on the client, one in browser window, and another in a private window, working just fine. > Another problem with Discord is that its anti-spam measures are making it harder and harder to create an anonymous account Haven'…
They have a pretty extensive black list of email providers from what I can tell. Throwaway email accounts or services like Trashmail are pretty much completely blocked from what I can tell.
I have half a dozen accounts all registered to one email by just adding periods at various points in the address.
1. email@example.com
2. e.mail@example.com
3. em.ail@example.com
4. Etc etc
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I guess I would have to use Flowdock to understand -- those gifs were confusing and unclear to me. I'm not sure what I was looking at. Personally I find slack threads perfectly usable and helpful for keeping things organized for the most part. What's the issue with them? I found them a revolutionary step forward in chat UX to be honest, something that had been missing for 20 years or more.
Some people - like myself - prefer to see all the messages go past and mentally thread them. It’s a skill I learnt from many years of irc use. Others prefer to click through and not think about thread content until they choose to. Also I’d rather not grab my mouse to see things.
Why not just try to unlearn that, because it is a massive waste of mental effort in a lot of situations?
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#219they should have sold to microsoft they are out of ideas, it's becoming a bloated product (it was already tbh) forums+IRC here we go agane IRC #1 for me, i sometimes use discord, but i don't it's not always open anymore
Forums were 1000x better. You could actually browse most forums without logging in, and they were search indexable. I feel like there is a lot of information locked behind unsearchable discord that I will never see. If trying to build a community everything that goes to discord that could have been a forum post is tying your community to some company that makes messaging software instead of your own forum.
Discourse forums can add integration to Discord.
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> abominations like slack - which hides streams of conversation behind a wall, making the UX terrible. I'm not usually a defender of Slack but this is one of the things I _like_ about Slack threads. Typically in our rooms every discussion is a thread and if I'm not concerned with that particular discussion there's only ever one message and notification I need to dismiss. If I _am_ concerned with it I can opt in to re…
It's discouraged on some Slack servers though, because it's pretty terrible for accessibility.
I'm not familiar with the accessibility, but this seems more like Slack needing to make the feature more accessible than saying that the feature is bad.