A privacy war is raging inside the W3C

Post by pjmlp » Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 3:21 PM UTC

howaboutnope wrote: post #210

pjmlp wrote: post #184

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The average user are all those people that are yet to bother with GNU/Linux desktop, despite the exodus migrations being profethized at each macOS or Windows version.

The average person has a fractional amount of children, friends, parents, even limbs. The average person exists no more than a spherical cow does.

Post by eitland » Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 3:45 PM UTC

jcrites wrote: post #146

petters wrote: post #139

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> Google is a for profit company. On the side the offer products and services. Their profits come from selling your data to others. Google does not sell the data to others. (In fact, much of Google's profits would remain intact even without any user data. That is the great thing about search ads -- the user tells you exactly what they want. There is no need to guess)

No, but a history of what you’ve previously searched massively improves search results in just a few queries.

Post by still_grokking » Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 6:52 PM UTC

Terretta wrote: post #178

o8r3oFTZPE wrote: post #168

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Locked down devices. Then making more money from selling subscriptions, developer certificates, running "app stores", advertising services, etc. To get the full functionality from the device, it is difficult to avoid obtaining an "AppleID". There is an "incentive" for users to sacrifice privacy and control to Apple. That appears to be intentional. Then the after purchase data collection and storage begins. I am glad…

You cannot use 90% of the capabilities of most software-running appliances w/o agreeing to be individual-consumer-behavior tracked and resold to third party marketers. Try to turn on a new Samsung, LG, Sony, read the fine print. This model is not in Apple’s agreements.

Post by rodgerd » Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 8:27 PM UTC

samplatt wrote: post #100

rodgerd wrote: post #82

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My tipping point was noticing that about 30% of my DNS traffic on my home network was Android devices calling out to tracking and advertising networks. Moving to iOS has dropped that dramatically, more than an order of magnitude. The fact that we're now seeing multiple lawsuits, PR campaigns, and lobbying to damage Apple since they put a requirement to disclose privacy details in the App Store shows how much surveill…

An alternative to giving your money to one of the largest tax-dodgers on the planet is a $30 raspberry pi with "pi-hole" installed. Browsing on my phone at home with all those ad networks blocked okay... until you go outside your home network and get all the ads again. It's almost made my stop using my phone outside of my home network.

Post by dhosek » Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 9:20 PM UTC

miki123211 wrote: post #187

dhosek wrote: post #49

> companies that use cross-site tracking for things like website optimization OK, I was hoping someone already addressed this, but apparently not. What "website optimization" requires cross-site tracking? Is there any real application for cross-site tracking besides advertising? I honestly would like to know.

Yes, when one website relies on the fact that you're logged in somewhere else. Thing easily being able to add embedded Youtube videos to your watchlist, adding favorite articles to Pocket, being able to pay with 1 click using a payment method saved somewhere else, and so on.