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Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for healthcare planning

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Re: Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for healthcare planning

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Post by kbelder »

jacquesm wrote: post #91
axiosgunnar wrote: post #30

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You mean your brain was starved of oxygen for some time? (while still enough to not faint) Interesting, could somebody more knowledgable say if this is possible? Wish you a swift recovery in any case!

I made one critical mistake: it hurt a lot to try to sleep so I tried to sleep on my back one night, and that cost me dearly: the active area of the lungs is not symmetrically divided between front and back, the back part has a larger active surface. Fluid then migrates from the front to the back pooling there leading to less gas exchange. I suspect that this was the lowest point and after that sleeping on my belly a…

Yeah, when I had Covid my wife was doing everything she could for me... hydrating, vitamins C and D, so on, but I think the treatment with the biggest effect was resting face-down. The fact that that is now pretty common knowledge has probably saved many thousands of lives.

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Post by ianlevesque »

spookthesunset wrote: post #128
iammisc wrote: post #49

When my first daughter was born in 2018, I had a respiratory infection. It lasted three months before I went in to the doctor. I hesitated to seek medical advice because it was clearly viral. But the cough was so bad it was causing the newborn to wake up. The doctor (at a walk-in clinic) told me viral respiratory infections can last months and there's nothing you can do. Just wait. HE gave me some pills to stop the c…

> doctors are surprised that COVID may do the same? Because we all decided to collectively forget every single thing we know about respiratory viruses and infectious diseases. Somehow because covid is "novel" the world needed to rebuild our entire knowledge base from the ground up. A good example is how lasting t-cell immunity was dismissed for the longest time (and still is in many circles). People apparently seemed…

Like forgetting that respiratory viruses are airborne?

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Post by waterhouse »

MaxBarraclough wrote: post #193
AnimalMuppet wrote: post #177

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Have you tried postural drainage for your lungs? I ask because if you've lost half your lung capacity (and I expect a singer and flute player would know), then you must have some kind of junk in there. For those not familiar with the term: You position yourself with your head a foot lower than your hips (and your back straight). You hold that for 15 minutes or so. You let gravity pull the junk out of your lungs down…

That sounds like the kind of thing you should do on the advice of your doctor, rather than on the advice of a stranger on the Internet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postural_drainage#Risks

"Postural drainage is considered safe and effective, but may cause some side effects. The procedure is discontinued if the patient complains of headache, discomfort, dizziness, palpitations,[3] fatigue, or dyspnea. Patients may be dyspnic after the various manuovers, since the head-down position increases the work of breathing, reduces tidal volume, and decreases functional residual capacity (FRC).[citation needed]"

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

jacquesm wrote: post #152
Amezarak wrote: post #115

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I don't think GP was suggesting you were dumb, just trying to point out there's a lot of widespread respiratory illnesses with exactly the same symptoms that are endemic - not to say Covid isn't more severe at a population level, but that you can't really say with any kind of certainty based only on those symptoms that someone has Covid. A few years ago I had exactly these symptoms, plus a high fever, but in my case,…

Yes, but the flu season in 2020 pretty much didn't happen and COVID did. So in your case the even money would be on it not being COVID 'a few years ago' but if it had happened in March up to today of 2020/2021 then probably it would be. GP is playing silly games and I'm a bit tired of those given my rather personal engagement with this particular virus, and frankly, if it is some other kind of virus then it hardly ma…

> Yes, but the flu season in 2020 pretty much didn't happen

Not arguing the rest of your claims, but that's objectively not true. Based upon current estimates it was actually worse than average[1] and its season was cut short in April due to the COVID efforts[2].

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%932020_United_State...

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Post by _y5hn »

disabled wrote: post #154
_y5hn wrote: post #144

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Breathing exercises and meditation/yoga may help, both with heart and lungs. Worth a try along with long covid support/meetups.

Yep. I do breathing exercises daily. It helps with the dysautonomia (long covid causes dysautonomia) too. You may want to look into the Airofit Pro: https://www.airofit.com/

One may also learn Ujjayi breath. It needs no technology and has other benefits.

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Post by lamontcg »

jacquesm wrote: post #127
felixbraun wrote: post #109

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You could check for T-cells at some point -- if you had Covid, they are measurable even after many months. In contrast, IgG titers show up in only ~80% and decline steadily. Excellent recent paper: > Here, we investigated SARS-CoV-2 antibody and T cell responses in matched samples of COVID-19 convalescent individuals up to 6 months after infection. Longitudinal analysis revealed decreasing and stable spike- and nucle…

Thank you, if there is any benefit to having that level of certainty (and not to satisfy internet naysayers) then I may still do this, but I have received my shot (Jansen) because there are still some immunological benefits from that and it helps in a regulatory sense as well (lots of doors are closed to people that have not been vaccinated). What matters to me is that I got through it, still live pretty carefully ev…

You might consider it if insurance puts up a fight but there's no utility in getting a T-cell test just to try to win arguments on the Internet.

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Post by legolas2412 »

yread wrote: post #206
spookthesunset wrote: post #128

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> doctors are surprised that COVID may do the same? Because we all decided to collectively forget every single thing we know about respiratory viruses and infectious diseases. Somehow because covid is "novel" the world needed to rebuild our entire knowledge base from the ground up. A good example is how lasting t-cell immunity was dismissed for the longest time (and still is in many circles). People apparently seemed…

But... we did get infected with coronaviruses (the OC43 and friends) and other common cold viruses over and over again. The reinfection rate of ~15% for SARS-COV-2 is comparable to those

It would have been better if reinfection was described as "you'll test positive again, but it will be milder". Instead the media was full of articles saying "immunity lasts only 6 months"

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Post by spookthesunset »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #182

Been in lockdown for 18 months before I actually caught covid, to be perfectly honest most of the symptoms described for "long covid" I experienced from being locked down, after actually having covid I haven't noticed much of a difference (once my smell and taste returned, thankfully that was soon). Low energy, out of breath, etc. You have to keep in mind most of us are doing a fraction of walking around that you wou…

> Doubt we'll ever get a truly objective assessment for the past year and a half for at least 10-15 years, if ever.

My daughters children maybe will have enough distance to reflect on it. Maybe her grandkids. And it won’t be pretty… this last year and a half has been the biggest public health care fuck up in recorded history.

What we did with lockdowns, masks, social distancing… it’s all modern day rain dances. Just humans thinking they have more control over nature than they actually do. Same basic mechanism humans used thousands of years ago to trick themselves into thinking goat sacrifices would ward off disease and famine.

What we did is truly horrific. But the truth won’t be widely recognized until most of the players involved are long dead. Unfortunately…

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Post by andred14 »

More lies for the stupid masses. Any flu or cold will have lasting symptoms if you don't shake it off, do some exercise, eat well and force yourself to 100%

Also avoid pharamceuticals.

I was sick in the winter 2019/2020. Took a few weeks to get running again so what. It was just a flu we are being lied to:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Z4s9cYZ5IBUz/

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iammisc wrote: post #49

When my first daughter was born in 2018, I had a respiratory infection. It lasted three months before I went in to the doctor. I hesitated to seek medical advice because it was clearly viral. But the cough was so bad it was causing the newborn to wake up. The doctor (at a walk-in clinic) told me viral respiratory infections can last months and there's nothing you can do. Just wait. HE gave me some pills to stop the c…

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