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An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by Tajnymag »

hbn wrote: post #181
willis936 wrote: post #105

Friendly reminder that old.reddit.com is still up. I deleted the app this morning. Maybe old.reddit.com will be a nicotine patch.

There are decent (free and paid) third-party clients that make Reddit a much nicer experience on mobile. On Android I was a big fan of Sync for Reddit, and on iOS I've been using Apollo. Every once in a while I'll open up the official client and I'm just blown away at how bad it is. It's constantly trying to get me to watch livestreams of people doing random things unrelated to my interests. Why would I ever want to…

+1 for Sync for Reddit. An amazing app. I've tried to use the official client for compatibility reasons, but the difference in UX is just night and day.

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Post by elliekelly »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #180
kevincox wrote: post #90

Once upon a time Reddit was a link aggregator. You would post a link and the author would get credit. You could save the link without Reddit. But Reddit is moving towards first party content. Not only has the site added native photo and video upload support but many communities disallow external content. Requiring a reupload or a screenshot. This not only removes the link to the actual creator but is also a nightmare…

The problem that Reddit's native vid/img upload solved was how every Reddit thread older than a year was a 404 link to imgur, a Youtube video since made private, etc. It's essential to avoid link rot. Not long ago, old Reddit content was almost always dead. As usual, it's just trade-offs.

Shouldn’t the creators of the original content have a say though? If someone made their youtube video private that probably means they don’t want people watching it anymore.

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Post by nunez »

pantulis wrote: post #79
Theizestooke wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The niche subreddits are still valuable to me, particularly stuff like r/emacs and r/AskHistorians

One thing that amazes with Reddit is how some subreddits are pure gold and others are basically crap.

This is why I love Reddit. The huge trash subs that drive most of the ad delivery are what fund the smaller subs that are extremely valuable

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Post by pimlottc »

oarsinsync wrote: post #168
kevincox wrote: post #90

Once upon a time Reddit was a link aggregator. You would post a link and the author would get credit. You could save the link without Reddit. But Reddit is moving towards first party content. Not only has the site added native photo and video upload support but many communities disallow external content. Requiring a reupload or a screenshot. This not only removes the link to the actual creator but is also a nightmare…

> I get people sending me things that I might like as a screenshot. Great, nice jacket, if only I could click that "buy" button. I wonder why sharing of links is so unpopular, especially outside of the tech-sphere. Is it that "link previews" are generally worse than a screenshot of the page? For the sender, especially on mobile, it takes less time to take and share a screenshot, then it takes to get the URL, copy it…

Links sharing is also less predictable. What will the shared message look like? Will it contain useful context like the page title or will it be a giant unreadable URL? Will there be a link preview? Depends on the messaging platform (SMS and Signal no, iMessage and Slack yes). Will it even take the user to the same page? Will there be a paywall or a redirect to an infinite scroll?

A screenshot is truly WYSIWYG and is the most reliable way to know that they will see the exact same thing that you see.

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Post by cloverich »

piva00 wrote: post #82
nicbou wrote: post #3

When a company grows large enough, the APIs and user-generated tools that propelled its growth get treated like a threat. They tend to vertically integrate and keep anyone from using their data.

Exactly, Twitter went through the same process, locking down its API, introducing usage quotas and getting increasingly more hostile towards Twitter clients that circumvented the ad-serving side of it. I remember it was a shitshow at the time, probably around 2012, I worked for a company that was leveraging Twitter's API for a product and we got quite nervous about the hostility.

To extend, the company would not be sustainable without the ads, so not being hostile towards it could literally put them out of business. There's a balance but ultimately they eschew ads at the start to achieve more growth, knowing they can recoup their losses at a later date. It is a bait and switch in that sense, which is in turn a very legitimate thing to be pissed about. But any company hosting content for free can only sustain with ads or some kind of charging (users, businesses). We've seen experiments with more sustainable models (Mastadon? Another thatt charged users directly, forget the name already) but I don't think any winners have emerged yet. I'm optimistic there's a better future but I don't know what it looks like.

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Post by throwaway675309 »

CuriousCosmic wrote: post #200
ffffffg wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Homosexuality is, by its very definition, same- sex attraction, not same-gender attraction. Aside from Reddit's double standard when it comes to subreddit bans, the fact that some people wanting to discuss their attraction to a particular sex is considered 'transphobic', is the wider problem here. It's not right that actual lesbians are getting harangued and then banned for not being interested in 'girldick' or whate…

> Not really, just biological reality. People can't actually change their sex (only their gender expression), so 'male lesbian' is a statement of self-contradiction. This is where you are mistaken. You can change your sex with a sex reassignment surgery. While gender is identity based, sex is defined via the phenotypes (physical characteristics). If you make the alterations necessary to match the physical characteris…

"You become that sex for all intents and purposes"... i'd argue that you are perceived as that sex for all intents and purposes.

Having SRS you still lack the ability to carry a baby in terms of impregnation for MTF, which most biological women are automatically capable of unless they have some extraneous condition/syndrome/etc.

In addition I often wonder how the cocktail of female hormones including estrogen (versus mostly testosterone in biological males) play a part in neurological development and influence as a prepubescent.

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Post by Vuska »

rchaud wrote: post #196
kevincox wrote: post #90

Once upon a time Reddit was a link aggregator. You would post a link and the author would get credit. You could save the link without Reddit. But Reddit is moving towards first party content. Not only has the site added native photo and video upload support but many communities disallow external content. Requiring a reupload or a screenshot. This not only removes the link to the actual creator but is also a nightmare…

Subreddit moderators prefer first-party content instead of links, because all people do is fill subreddits with affiliate links or blogspam. Mods don't want to handle this, so they discourage external links completely. In a lot of cases, a link will be posted, but the majority of the article text will be included in a message. So users can have a discussion without even visiting the page.

I mod a programming subreddit. 99% of our submissions are screenshots. It drives me mad. I tried to enforce pastebin / text posts only a few years ago and the community was firmly against it, so I let it go.

We even have volunteer transcribers (thank you /r/TranscribersOfReddit) who transcribe the majority of posts. The modern internet truly is a weird place.

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Post by Crosseye_Jack »

Sebb767 wrote: post #175
Crosseye_Jack wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they even go out of their way to seperate audio and video requests Just to give them the benefit of the doubt, many video sites do this (YT being the biggest). It allows you to change the video source on the fly (changing the bitrate for example) without effecting the audio playback so preventing any audio glitches during the swap. People are a lot more forgiving of video artifacts then they are of audio glitches.…

> So maybe thats why they do it and not some evil plan to annoy you from saving the video I guess it's a bit of both. A technically better solution that also helps your marketing is simply a win-win-situation for them. But it's kinda ironic that the upgraded the user experience with better playback while similarly degrading it by disallowing hotlinking. Typical sidegrade.

Curiosity made me check, looks like they are just using DASH, its pretty common to break apart audio and video when using DASH so I personally still don't see any explicit malice there.

On the video I used I saw 5 video encodes (96, 240, 360, 480, and 720 - it could be that the orig video was 720 so there is no point encoding a 1080 video). So yeah, it saves then have atleast 4 dupicates of the audio if each video was in its own container also containing audio when you can mix it client side.

I also put the reddit URL into youtube-dl which downloaded the two pieces and murged them just fine.

So for me personally I'm still going to give them the benefit of the doubt on that one as its a pretty common way to do streaming video these days. But I see your point that it came with an added benefit to them that it makes it more difficult to hotlink to the video, but its still easy enough to download and rehost elsewhere.

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Post by uxcolumbo »

rchaud wrote: post #193

Pretty much every Reddit video is an .m4v or .mp4 file that can be downloaded directly from the browser. Open the link in a browser window, then right click and choose 'Save video as'. Works on mobile as well.

As far as I know the the video stream and audio stream are split and if you save the video it doesn't contain the audio.

Those reddit save sites put both together.

I don't get why Reddit won't allow videos with sound to be easily saved.

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