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This is not a "sensitive" issue, unless you consider GP's opinion "sensitive". I don't. I also don't think it would lead to a curious, constructive conversation. There is probably nothing OP could offer which would change what the experience of 8 years in RH engineering showed me. At best, it would lead to another long reply where I tried to explain what RH was actually like versus GP's impression. It's essentially G…
> I also don't think it would lead to a curious, constructive conversation. There is probably nothing OP could offer which would change what the experience of 8 years in RH engineering showed me. To me, the intentional insistence that you want to and will remain ignorant undermines the credibility of the rest of the comment. Who knows what else have you shut your mind to and thus overlooked at RH.
Jim Whitehurst to step down as IBM President
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Notes interface was crap but it did have some interesting tech. Also it was bought, not originated at ibm. They could have fixed it I suppose.
Not really. Lotus Notes was an MS-Access system that would attempt to do database synchronization between a server copy of the database and the local client. It was built in an age where road warriors were expected to take their laptops with them, be able to enter sales data, then have that automatically merged on return to the office. In a dial up age and before wifi, this gave unprecedented tools to those who neede…
Sorry you got drawn on a goose chase.
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Minor correction: I wouldn’t call Newton an “internally popular product”. At least, working on Newton I didn’t feel that way. And just before SJ came back, Apple had spun Newton out into a separate company because it wasn’t really fitting in. SJ spun it back in and killed it.
Would love to learn more about Newton - history and/or tech. Any resources on the web or anything interesting you may want to share?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15106802
Or just reach out for the Newton documentation, scattered about some sites,
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#215One of my recent revelations was when I told my teen children "... a company like IBM". To what they said "what is IBM??" They know all the large tech companies but that one was a surprise to them, they had a look at Wikipedia and said "ah yes, it was a great company in your times". Time to get some wine.
I'm 33, allergic to IBM (and Oracle), want to stay away from their products if possible. Luckily I know nothing about IBM, only the spectrum protect backup... I mean why everything has to be so complicated? Ugly? Props for having documentation + they support lots of OSes and features. But when it comes to management... even Linux people in my office make fun of that product, because how awkward, complex and time cons…
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Would love to learn more about Newton - history and/or tech. Any resources on the web or anything interesting you may want to share?
Check the Dylan thread, which was supposed to be the systems language for Newton OS, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15106802 Or just reach out for the Newton documentation, scattered about some sites, https://newtonfaq.com/ http://newtonscript.org/ https://www.newted.org/manuals/
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Thanks for sharing your story. I wonder if the children of FAANG employees would feel similar to what you felt. I suspect that may not be the case, since most companies don't really make such long term investments anymore.
I think those companies still exist, but they exist in China. I might be wrong though. I just see the growth of China and decline of the US, and I cannot stop feeling like those two are connected. But what do I know. People were afraid about Japan before.
Except for top performers and people inheriting great wealth, Americans really need to adjust their expectations of what their material life will be. Happily, I see this in young people who aren’t buying into materialism and prefer life style, travel, etc. and realize that living within their means is better than long term debt.
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#218He sold zero IBM System Z mainframes to AWS. He let thousands of IBM point of sale systems to be replaced with crap that can't buffer keystrokes - instead of modernizing the SDKs for those who know Linux and not AIX. He bought RedHat, but not Digital Ocean so they had a cloud consumers trust. He didn't win a serious contract with Facebook for kernel tuning. He didn't win a serious contract with AWS for AWS Linux 3. H…
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This is not a "sensitive" issue, unless you consider GP's opinion "sensitive". I don't. I also don't think it would lead to a curious, constructive conversation. There is probably nothing OP could offer which would change what the experience of 8 years in RH engineering showed me. At best, it would lead to another long reply where I tried to explain what RH was actually like versus GP's impression. It's essentially G…
Where are the people fleeing RH going to go? There are not many workplaces as large and as Free Software focussed as RH.
This adds to my suspicions that the long-term IBM C-suite goal of the Red Hat acquisition is to eventually convert Red Hat to be like their captive mainframe revenue and profit stream. I would not at all be surprised to see a gradual deterioration in Red Hat quality in the coming 10 years.
Watch the general level of support engineering skills in what will eventually be a Blue-washed Red Hat L2 Support. That is your canary. What you are used to today in that tier will be gradually relegated to the tech leads for L2. Don't look for tech leads by title; look for the leads who gates decisions to escalate to L3. Highly-skilled L2 organizations grant most if not all their support engineers autonomy to escalate to L3. Profit-squeezing L2 organizations (what I suspect may be happening with Red Hat in the coming years) will gate those escalations, and staff vacancies with relatively down-skilled engineers.
Note that I also enjoy working with these relatively down-skilled engineers. No complaints about "bedside manners", and they can address common scenarios. Given enough time and exposure to more experienced staff, they would absolutely step up to highly-skilled L2 levels. The challenge is often these situations see those more experienced staff leave too soon. In my experience you need at least 7, ideally 14 years to season new staff to those skill levels, and the attrition rate is high over that time; troubleshooting well under pressure with grace is a very difficult combination of skills and characteristics to find.
Two ways I've seen to effectively deal with this on the customer end is find an alternative solution (not really feasible in this case at this time, though I'm watching several possible developments), or up-skill your staff. You'll know you've reached the right skill level when your engineers can delve into the internals of the product sufficiently that they routinely convince the down-skill L2 support engineers to escalate their lead within a day or two of engaging.
If my suspicions bear fruit (I really hope not, the vast majority of my clients hold massive people and capital investments in the Red Hat ecosystem), then this is extremely bullish for AWS. Their customer-obsession-to-a-fault culture would swiftly exploit IBM's strategy, and there would be no contest. I can see several simultaneous attacks AWS could mount to neutralize Red Hat's position if IBM's strategy at the end of the day really is what I currently suspect.
I'd really like to hear from others that have found other workarounds for this eventuality.
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Steve Jobs had been gone for 12 years, there was plenty of culture clash and turf wars. Steve just managed to prevail. When he returned, the workforce was pampered and attached to projects that weren't going anywhere. Steve removed a number of perks, and killed some of the biggest, most internally popular projects (Newton and OpenDoc come to mind). Lot's of people left. But Steve came back to Apple as a savvy politic…
Minor correction: I wouldn’t call Newton an “internally popular product”. At least, working on Newton I didn’t feel that way. And just before SJ came back, Apple had spun Newton out into a separate company because it wasn’t really fitting in. SJ spun it back in and killed it.