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“We make new Windows, you back it and you’ll sell new machines.”
It’s a very deliberate move because it absolutely requires purchase of new machines.
It’s not an oversight or an accident, it’s a lever.
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Fun fact: the Surface Studio 2 is fully supported until October 2, 2024 with no need to replace the OS! Not bad for a niche device released in 2018.
Selling an extremely expensive piece of hardware while acknowledging that you intend on making it obsolete in 4 years time, for arbitrary reasons sounds pretty bad to me. And who cares if it's niche.
Win 12 is what you'll want to wait for anyway.
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First-gen Ryzens and Threadrippers, while they do support fTPM, are not supported in W11 and they won't be 10 years old in 2025.
This really gets me - my Ryzen 5 1600X and my wife’s Ryzen 5 2600 are still extremely capable chips, even if they’re a couple of generations old at this point. It’s only been 3 years since I built my rig, and two since I built my wife’s. I can almost accept the i5-4570 my daughter inherited not being compatible - but hardware just over 3 years old not making the cut is unacceptable.
I hope the public backlash against Microsoft is large enough that they revert there ridiculous system requirements. Requiring TPM 1.2 is sort of reasonable I guess. But TPM 2.0. You've got to be kidding me. Also enabling secure boot is a pain in the ass for users that dual boot, because in Linux, to load a custom compiled kernel module you have to sign it first and do a whole lot of mumbling around to get it working.…
> do a whole lot of mumbling around to get it working isnt that the whole point of Linux?
If its masters made that harder, that sucks.
To change requirements, a new version was necessary. They can't cut off support on Windows 10 from old hardware which has until 2025, so this is how it has to be. I have a new i9-11900K build that's the snappiest thing I've laid hands on, and I'm eagerly awaiting Windows 11. Microsoft has done far too little of this type of cutting off of old hardware, and no one here knows the exact details on why they chose those generations of chips. There's more to it but no one at MS is going to sit and debate with you, it's just the way it is.
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Selling an extremely expensive piece of hardware while acknowledging that you intend on making it obsolete in 4 years time, for arbitrary reasons sounds pretty bad to me. And who cares if it's niche.
Given Microsoft's track record, Win 11 will be a trainwreck. Win 12 is what you'll want to wait for anyway.
I wonder how many will be convinced to install Linux, especially given the increasing move for Operating Systems as a browser shim.
To think that all of this Microsoft bullshit could be the propeller for Linux adoption, if only Linux developers had good taste and had developed something worthy of replacing Windows for the average user.
If someone sells something with requirements - it is their choice and not down to people whinging because they want the latest thing but can't due to XYZ. This world doesn't owe you squat.
Note - my personally built PC doesn't have a TPM, but when I get round to it I may purchase one and then upgrade - and I won't friggin' moan.
To think that all of this Microsoft bullshit could be the propeller for Linux adoption, if only Linux developers had good taste and had developed something worthy of replacing Windows for the average user.
I still have Windows machines for games and streaming, but those are just my toys. I can take or leave them.