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Google turned me into a serial killer

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Re: Google turned me into a serial killer

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post #195

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Google has cheap, low-effort customer support, so I'll allow it.

Wait, how does that help? Low quality customer support hurts us. Low quality comments also hurt us. That just doubles the hurt for me. It doesn't compensate in any way. It's like some guy punching me saying "For the Green Team!" and then you come by and punch me saying "For the Yellow Team!". Like, dude, you didn't undo the first punch. I'm now twice-punched. I want to be zero punched.

Google's (Youtube's specifically) automated processes have allowed the rise of extortion via their copyright systems using the threat of automatic account deletion.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47227937

Their automated processes do result in account deletions, and they intentionally build their systems so it is hard to reach humans to resolve complaints, so I don't think that comment was particularly undeserved - I read it as jokingly superlative.

Re: Google turned me into a serial killer

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What a take! "Success and non-whiteness are incompatible." For the purpose of discussing the lack of privilege of homeless people, should we consider them black? It's almost as if race is just a confusing distraction in conversations about privilege!

What a take! Here's some mic spam I heard the other day when gaming: "There's all sorts of N*s - light brown, dark brown, even white ones. ... ... and even the homeless guy on the corner is a N" It's not the first time I've heard this sentiment, and presumably not the last. Perhaps race (and gender, sexuality, wealth, etc) are related to privilege. I mean they are used to justify why entire groups of people deserve m…

> ...he can basically be considered white for purposes of discussing his privilege.

This is a distraction, and a confusing one. Calling that out is not an "attempt to quash any discussion". Let's discuss race when race is relevant, and the other 90% of the time let's discuss economic privilege.

Re: Google turned me into a serial killer

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post #203

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>I think you have a decent chance of getting a five figure+ settlement from this. Against Google? I am more inclined to think the dude is actually a serial killer than that he has a chance of winning a defamation suit.

"Google wrongly called me a serial killer" is a story many news outlets would love to run. He has the capacity to give them massive amounts of bad press, in a time where US regulators and politicians are closely looking at the dangers of automated algorithms from tech monopolies. I think he has a very good chance of receiving a settlement , Google will not want to take this to court.

We are lucky because Google is not running a DNA service. Otherwise, who knows whether they will link to him to a serial killer.

Re: Google turned me into a serial killer

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post #186

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In this case, we also several hints that the guy is dead: - “Hristo Bogdanov Georgiev […] was a Bulgarian rapist and serial killer” - “Cause of Death: Execution by hanging” - “Died: August 28, 1980 (aged 23-24)” Yet we also have - Born: 1956 (age 65 years) Also, if they don’t exactly know at what age he died, how do they know he would be 65 now, and not 64? I think Google can do better, but not at the scale they need…

Interesting enough it tells me that he was executed by firing squad and not hanged. So do the screenshots of the source. "Cause of death: Execution by shooting" If you copied that correctly then that would imply that these results are personalized?

The article only has screen shots, so I had to type it, and probably made a mistake.

Re: Google turned me into a serial killer

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post #185

You should seriously consider suing for defamation if this isn't fixed within a few days. This is an egregious error, especially if it was done by an automated system (and this could be a systemic issue affecting many others). I think you have a decent chance of getting a five figure+ settlement from this. Talk to a lawyer about your options. EDIT: When I search "Hristo Georgiev" (from US IP) there is no longer an im…

A post further down by neil_s, about 2 hours ago (20:21 UTC), says they filed a bug with the knowledge graph team at Google.

Direct link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27622100

Re: Google turned me into a serial killer

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post #185

You should seriously consider suing for defamation if this isn't fixed within a few days. This is an egregious error, especially if it was done by an automated system (and this could be a systemic issue affecting many others). I think you have a decent chance of getting a five figure+ settlement from this. Talk to a lawyer about your options. EDIT: When I search "Hristo Georgiev" (from US IP) there is no longer an im…

Author here - Given that I‘m not in the US puts me at a disadvantage. But if you can forward me a good lawyer who is willing to work with me on this, I may give it a shot.

Re: Google turned me into a serial killer

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I'm glad this guy has a sense of humor about this, but I really hope that Google does right by him and that he doesn't get stuck in their Byzantine customer service process.

Actually he should sue them. The damage to his reputation and prospects are real.

Right to be forgotten would be much easier to invoke.

Suing in Bulgaria is likely to end up nowhere with Bulgaria having the worst courts in the EU (a primary reason not being in Schengen)

Re: Google turned me into a serial killer

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post #201

Even if I didn't know about the mistake, I would still think idly that something was amiss, because that's the best-dressed and friendliest-looking goddamn serial killer I've ever seen!

It's not like most media outlets would show the nicest possible picture of someone accused of multiple rapes and murders.

Right, unless maybe they were working some kind of "He was so charming, all his victims went willingly blablabla" type narrative.

Re: Google turned me into a serial killer

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post #123

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It boggles my mind how we went from a google search result to white supremacy. I'd like people to please exercise restraint, the world feels like it is falling apart where every conversation becomes political/racial. If this is going on HN, I wonder how it is elsewhere.

Yeah, it’s a bit much. The “extreme” reading is slowly becoming the only acceptable one. Partly because of comments like the one precipitating the thread: there’s no good reason to try to connect these items.

I never said they were racist. What does it mean that someone would assume I meant that?
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