Microsoft announces Windows 11 • Hacker News Board

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by Crono » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:26 PM UTC

sbadger wrote: post #48

24 years ago my company moved from mac to windows (granted macs would crash every 20 minutes). At the time we were given a windows laptop to try for a bit, with the rollout a month or so later. When I went to shut it down I asked how to... 'press start', I was told. I thought 'nope, they still don't get it... pressing start to stop... send it back to them and tell them to try again and harder'. Its still true.

That old joke ... But i have a solution for you: You could use that fancy thing called a "power button" - no joke, it will actually help you in turing of the computer - or do you want to only start it with this button?

Jokes aside: cmon, its not a big deal to open the windows menu to power of the machine. The Word "Start" is now missing since Windows Vista which released 2007 - nearly 15 Years ago!

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by chadlavi » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:26 PM UTC

Quite a lot of stuff in that new UI looks directly pilfered from apple. And "you can run android apps" sounds like a direct copy of macOS running iPad apps.

Even the (in windows' case, completely nonsensical) decision to center the taskbar feels like a ripoff of apple ui.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by Aerroon » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:26 PM UTC

mrweasel wrote: post #152

roblabla wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That hospital is dumb and will likely face issues in the near future then. Win7 isn't supported by Microsoft since early 2020, which means no more security updates. Given hospitals are getting more and more frequently targeted by ransomware... Well, we'll see how that goes. There's still win8 and win8.1 to worry about though, and win10 also has LTSC releases that stay supported for at least 10 years IIRC.

What I don’t get is hospitals buying things like MRI scanners, with Windows based “controller” with no upgrade path. The hospital, and the manufacturer, knows that the version of Windows they’re running will be EOL before the hardware, yet nobody ask the manufacturer how they plan to deal with that fact. The promise of Windows 10 being the last Windows could have but an end to that nonsense.

Why does it matter? Just don't connect it to the internet and there should be no issue. Why would you want to update software that could potentially break your super expensive machine if it already works?

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by hughrr » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:27 PM UTC

jtvjan wrote: post #209

dawnerd wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft needs to hire a proper UX/UI team. It looks like developers designed it.

If developers designed it, it wouldn't have all these rounded corners, superfluous animations, and useless padding everywhere.

Yea as a developer if I did it, it’d still look like windows NT.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by Shadonototro » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:27 PM UTC

meh, sounds like more of the same atrocities since Windows8

no fundamental changes other than cosmetics

no tabs on file explorer, why the heck they kept ribbon interface... wasn't windows 11 supposed to be about having an uniform and consistent design?

no changes on filesystem? still have to wait 88486468468 minutes when deleting a folder with lot of files?

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the only positive surprise was android apps, BUT quickly became uninterested the minute they mentioned amazon store.. yeah no thanks

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:27 PM UTC

swiley wrote: post #118

colechristensen wrote: post #100

I was happy with Windows 95 UI, really. Congratulations on incrementing a number and changing things so I'll be annoyed by a marginally different set of things? I can't raise to caring about something which should be done at this point. To some people it is important I'm sure but a lot of us just want the OS to keep doing the basics and get out of the way.

One of the biggest arguments I hear for using Windows instead of Linux is that people are used to the UI. I've been using the same FVWM config and shells inside Xterms since I started using Linux 18 years ago, meanwhile Windows has gone through something like 4 redesigns.

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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by dang » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:27 PM UTC

Related ongoing thread:

Introducing Windows 11 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27619354

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by NeutronStar » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:28 PM UTC

mpfundstein wrote: post #189

silicon2401 wrote: post #180

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> A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup Looks like I'll be skipping windows 11 and any future windows iterations if this is unavoidable

just get Pro

Pay more to remove features?

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by hoopleheaded » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:28 PM UTC

shp0ngle wrote: post #194

hoopleheaded wrote: post #190

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I tend to avoid accounts as much as possible but this seems a juvenile response. Do you use a smartphone?

Android does not require a Google account, I’m not sure about Apple and iOS but I think also not?

Suppose you are correct that neither actually requires an account but suspect the user experience is not great without.

Correct in that you can at least get through setup to have a functional device though.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by 1_player » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:28 PM UTC

nly wrote: post #71

Stealing all the advanced window management features from the Linux DE world... say repeatedly that no other OS does it. Stay classy MS.

Ask the Linux DE world to put a patent on it and litigate everyone that tries to steal their ground-breaking ideas.