Nvidia cripples cryptocurrency mining on RTX 3080 and 3070 cards

Post by yoz-y » Tue, May 18, 2021, 9:06 PM UTC

vladvasiliu wrote: post #197

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The casual customer will still be buying GPUs 10 years from now. The bulk order GPU miners will stop ordering GPUs the minute mining becomes unprofitable. With proof-of-stake and ASICs on the horizon, this could happen rather abruptly. When miners are done with GPUs, they're going to unload them on the secondary market. The used GPU market is going to be flooded with GPUs that have been overclocked and run with the d…

This doesn't really make sense to me. What would the "casual customer" do if nvidia didn't introduce this segmentation? Would this completely halt the gaming industry such that 10 years from now no one would even consider buying a GPU? I don't believe that. Also, if they're able to produce both consumer GPUs and miner GPUs to meet both demands, what's stopping them from doing it now? Is it not worth their while at cu…

Post by MauranKilom » Tue, May 18, 2021, 9:07 PM UTC

o_p wrote: post #38

How hard can it be to reverse engineer the drivers and remove the protections? Theres economic incentive now after all

Post by edave64 » Tue, May 18, 2021, 9:07 PM UTC

Scoundreller wrote: post #19

skytreader wrote: post #18

Total hardware noob here. How do they do it? Is there a particular instruction that ETH needs to be "efficient" but games can live with throttled? Or perhaps a sequence of instructions that's signature to ETH?

Going to be a fun future game of cat-and-mouse as miners figure out how to disable/bypass nvidia’s electronic countermeasures.

Post by gruez » Tue, May 18, 2021, 9:08 PM UTC

_vertigo wrote: post #145

wbraun wrote: post #2

Does this behavior anger anyone else on a deep level? I get that its hard to buy GPUs right now, but this seems like such an attack on general purpose computing. Hardware manufactures already segment features between consumer and busness grade parts that the silicon itself is capable of, such as virtualization, but restricting what algorithms one can run is a whole new level. I am pretty sure my next GPU is going to…

It's honestly pretty surprising to me to see how many people on here are supporting this move. That's not what I would expect, I would expect people on HN to object to this move on principle. Maybe my prediction in where most HN commenters stand in principle on this issue is wrong, or just maybe, this is a rare example of a time when the principle (hardware should be free to run at their max capability, not deliberat…

Post by coolspot » Tue, May 18, 2021, 9:08 PM UTC

outworlder wrote: post #102

wbraun wrote: post #2

Does this behavior anger anyone else on a deep level? I get that its hard to buy GPUs right now, but this seems like such an attack on general purpose computing. Hardware manufactures already segment features between consumer and busness grade parts that the silicon itself is capable of, such as virtualization, but restricting what algorithms one can run is a whole new level. I am pretty sure my next GPU is going to…

> I am pretty sure my next GPU is going to be AMD due to this behavior by Nvidia. I was thinking about buying NVIDIA for the next GPU based on performance numbers alone. However, against it there's: 1) Terrible Linux support(and history). This is specially important now that most of Steam's library runs on Linux without issues. It was eye-opening to see Cyberpunk running almost perfectly on DAY ONE with the same perf…