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Re: Kaspersky believes it found new CIA malware

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Post by withinboredom »

nyolfen wrote: post #205
narwally wrote: post #143

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It's nearly always about natural resources, just because the US has the largest oil reserves doesn't mean it's going to stop there. And the wars you mentioned are just the boots on the ground (or drones in the air) conflicts. Were still backing coups in Latin America (Honduras, Venezuela, Bolivia) so US friendly governments are put into place that will allow American companies to extract their resources.

which natural resources were we getting out of afghanistan

Pomegranate. After burning the poppy fields.

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Post by mhermher »

stjohnswarts wrote: post #199
coliveira wrote: post #173

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The CIA has a budget for lying and cheating that is an order of magnitude larger than anything else other countries have. I always assume that they are doing more damage than what we know about.

I highly doubt if they have an order of magnitude more than China "budget" for CIA type activities. Probably more but not 10X, maybe 2X

you can use military spending as a proxy.

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Post by bcrosby95 »

caconym_ wrote: post #141
oytis wrote: post #121

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Kaspersky's ties to FSB are an open secret, so it's really believing FSB vs believing CIA unless you have a way to verify them.

I think it’s much more likely for both these orgs to be telling the truth when they’re accusing their enemies of doing bad things than it is when they’re denying that they’ve done bad things themselves. It’s not a simple case of one consistently telling the truth, and the other consistently lying...

So when the CIA tells me some foreign government is doing something bad, I should believe them? Then when the CIA denies they lied about the foreign government was doing something bad, I should ignore them?

This advice makes no sense to me.

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Post by jessaustin »

willcipriano wrote: post #116
lostlogin wrote: post #110

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> my country has been at war my entire adult life The US has been at war for most it’s existence. Someone made a search tool to see how many years the US had been at war for, and then ran it on Wikipedia. Interestingly, France performed worse (assuming one doesn’t like war), though being involved in things like ‘The 100 years war’ skews things a little. https://freakonometrics.hypotheses.org/50473

I probably wouldn't be complaining if I was born in the 1930's, WW1 and 2 were fairly well justified. However what are the current wars even still about? WMD? No, that was a fabrication. Bin Laden? He's long dead. Oil? With fracking, the US has the largest oil reserves on the planet. ISIS? Essentially gone, not much of a threat to US citizens in any case. There was no reason for these wars, there is certainly no reas…

Of course you're right about all the stupid wars fought in my parents' lifetimes. It's also true that by the time WWII broke out, it was too late for USA to avoid it, so in a sense it was "justified". I don't find USA's actions in WWI to have been either justified or beneficial to humanity.

Wilson ran for reelection promising not to enter WWI. Upon winning, he immediately broke that promise. When USA entered the war, it had already ground to a stalemate after three years of carnage. The various warring parties had been open to a negotiated peace. As soon as American lives were on the line, France, Britain, and Italy discovered a determination to see the war to its bitter end, which took another 1.5 brutal years and millions more human lives.

Wilson claimed to prefer reconciliation to punishment of Germany, and initially during peace negotiations he reined in the worst French and British excesses. Then he got Spanish Flu, suffered severe mental decline, and functioned as a doormat for the remaining "negotiations". The French and British somehow concocted such draconian penalties that they created brutal fascist dictatorships not only in their enemy Germany but also in their ally Italy. Hitler's and Mussolini's empowerment, not to mention the transfer of Germany's Chinese colony to Japan, guaranteed a conflict like WWII.

https://www.history.com/news/woodrow-wilson-1918-pandemic-wo...

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Post by jessaustin »

cyberlurker wrote: post #87
aero-glide2 wrote: post #50

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Yeah, and CNN saying Chinese or Russian hackers always

Even if you think CNN is bad it still might be true.

Truly, a level of excellence to which all "news" organizations should aspire.

"CNN" is a recursive acronym, modeled after "GNU".

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Post by necovek »

anothernewdude wrote: post #210
willcipriano wrote: post #24

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If I had to wager I'd always bet on the CIA lying, I don't see how anyone could come to another conclusion given their history.

Kaspersky are a branch of Russian intelligence.

Source? Other than Trump, of course.

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Post by astrange »

caeril wrote: post #200
boston_clone wrote: post #70

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Didn't some PRISM documents show that Google's internal use of TLS 1.2 was blocking a more widespread collection of data? I'll see if I can find the slide that articulated the issue.

That was part of it. The other part was "Do what we tell you, or you'll be Joe Nacchioed" In a 2013 interview, Marissa Meyer made it abundantly clear this is why Yahoo "voluntarily" joined PRISM. One can assume the rest were similarly influenced.

PRISM is their database for storing subpoena responses. You don't "join" it.
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