The only issue I take with this article is their seemingly blase take on the risky investing behavior of Gen Z. Sure, if that's the lay of the land then use it to your advantage. But it seems a bit predatory. Risky activities tend to hurt more investors than they help, and lead to a small number of big winners and many losers. You can't just increase risk and increase reward for everyone. Regarding the predicament Ge…
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#212One thing active trading does is subject you to much higher short term tax rates. You'll also lose a bit on the spread every time you trade, even with zero commission brokerage fees. The longest stock I've held is Boeing (40 years).
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#213The only issue I take with this article is their seemingly blase take on the risky investing behavior of Gen Z. Sure, if that's the lay of the land then use it to your advantage. But it seems a bit predatory. Risky activities tend to hurt more investors than they help, and lead to a small number of big winners and many losers. You can't just increase risk and increase reward for everyone. Regarding the predicament Ge…
> demographics is working against asset values in the next twenty years or so. As someone who is about half way towards retirement, how is it best to work with this? My future retirement income seems to be mostly dependant on having the right selection of investments for my pension account to grow in time for when I stop working. It's currently split between a few low cost, broad indexes. But if we expect asset value…
Preferably wait till this period is over and rates rise. If there’s a salesman eager to speak to you, you’re looking at the wrong product.
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#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I watched some videos about dividend investing on YouTube that I would consider reasonable investment advice. Do you happen to have those links?
Sorry I don't remember who the videos were from, and to be clear I don't personally use either YouTube or WallStreetBets as a source of investment advice - I tend to just stick to a super simple passive investment strategy. I just remember seeing some videos in my feed on YouTube and thinking "wow this is actually better than a lot of what I've seen on CNBC". As an example, I did do a quick search just now on YouTube…
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#215"A combination of illusory superiority bias—the belief that we are more financially savvy than we actually are—and a culture of financial optimism leads most retail traders to believe they have above-average trading ideas and strategies." Um, yes. Retail investors as a class lose money. Remember, you're betting against people for whom this is their day job, work in a business that drops the losers, and have far more…
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
Correct. What they are selling you is an asset allocation, this turns on it's head all the innovation since the early 90s...and the performance you likely get will be indistinguishable from what most people could achieve on their own. One of the big advantages that savers have today are open platforms (there was a time when fund managers ran their own platforms), low dealing costs, low spreads, and ETFs. All that inv…
They make claims of better tax efficiency via tax-loss harvesting [1]. I don't know or care enough to evaluate it, but maybe it's better for some people, even if the allocation is no better than an ETF? Even if it worked, I wouldn't bother to do it manually. This doesn't matter for a retirement account, though. [1] https://support.wealthfront.com/hc/en-us/articles/209348486-...
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#217While the idea behind passive investing may seem like a good one, people often forget it's a double edge sword. By this I mean, when you invest into an ETF or index fund, that money in turn goes into everything underneath it. All too often that money isn't invested in the underlying equities in any intelligent way, and so some of it ends up in ridiculously bad equities. Because of this, there are complete zombie companies that are worth multi billions today, which sell no more than 2 widgets a year and haven't seen growth for nearly a decade... They are only worth so much because money keeps flowing into them from being apart of a hot ETF.
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#218"A combination of illusory superiority bias—the belief that we are more financially savvy than we actually are—and a culture of financial optimism leads most retail traders to believe they have above-average trading ideas and strategies." Um, yes. Retail investors as a class lose money. Remember, you're betting against people for whom this is their day job, work in a business that drops the losers, and have far more…
Incorrect risk management from investment bankers, treating highly-variant finance as deterministic physics, and a fanciness of extremely smart people to invent extremely complex solutions, which obfuscate the ever-increasing assumptions and are less robust to black swan events. This illusory superiority bias over the common man, giving too much authority and decision-making power to a set of mathematical functions, and a culture of financial optimism and realization that you are too big to fail. This is what caused the big crash of 2007-2008.
The common man, as a class, lost money from that crash. In response, Bitcoin and fractional stocks were introduced. New markets emerged, where wearing a suit or MBA seems a negative, not a value add. Now, as a class, you at least have the possibility to win money. Else you always lose (but maybe that's the natural way it is supposed to be, not everyone can be the queen ant, or has the adaptation capacity to become one). BTW: every hedge fund that opened their data to the public, saw better, more accurate, models being build on that, than any of their elite quants in-house was able to beat. The masses, when harnassed, are no match for even the biggest hedge funds.
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#219I'm also not sure that I buy the argument made elsewhere in this thread that you need active to make passive work. Indexes upon which funds are based often have a system of rules for how individual stocks are added and removed from the index that are based on the companies financial performance which is what ultimately drives the stock.
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#220Frankly, I think passive investing has ruined the fundamentals of investing and in part responsible for the poor financial health of our economy. While the idea behind passive investing may seem like a good one, people often forget it's a double edge sword. By this I mean, when you invest into an ETF or index fund, that money in turn goes into everything underneath it. All too often that money isn't invested in the u…