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Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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Off-topic but still makes me sad: Spotify removed all episodes of Joe Rogan for me by removing podcasts feature from Ukrainian (and not only) users. I’m a paid user btw. Worst part is that since JRE is free for such large part of internet users, it’s impossible to find on torrents unless it’s Elon Musk or similar. Sigh.

https://pastebin.com/s9JupqqD

This. This is the answer. Political whining is mainly due to the disempowerment of users in favor of these centralized gatekeepers. Being able to just act is the antidote.

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I don’t know from an advertisers perspective it seems like JRE is pretty mainstream. I don’t recall them having trouble getting sponsors in the past.

Most JRE sponsors were smaller companies targeting niche markets. He didn't have any mass market brands like Starbucks or Chevrolet.

Honest Q, but do any mass market brands like that advertise on podcasts?

It seems like all I hear are the usual suspects: Me Undies, Blue Apron, etc.

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Society in the west seems to not know how to deal with this new variety of bullying. By cloaking their bullying in the veil of righteousness, bullies are able to engage in self-aggrandisement to satisfy the tyrannical need to shape the world in the image that they desire, without engaging in the civilized discourse and debate that would preclude such decision making. The justification thrown around is that the cause…

>Society in the west seems to not know how to deal with this new variety of bullying Society in the West in contrast to... what exactly? Are you under the impression non-Western societies don't shape culture based on norms and expectations about what's proper or right? How is Spotify deleting episodes from their own platform tyranny? Jesus people have become so dramatic and whiny. Here's a crazy idea, if you don't wa…

A good contrast is China. China is very careful not to have another cultural Revolution. The solutions they use may be unpalatable to many westerners.

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This sucks for Joe and I can't say i didn't see it coming.

What would you do: take $100 million and get silenced? Or refuse the money and remain independent?

Also the listening/viewing experience on spotify is horrible. I used to get podcasts on my app of choice and have the YouTube videos running in the background. I've definitely stopped listening as much

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always pay attention who you hire, especially in HR. Woke and activist HR hires woke and activist people, woke and activist people will cause you trouble and can wreck your whole ship. This is true for every industry but especially for media, just look what happened to the once so prestigious news outlets, all taken hostage.

One of the major political parties in the United States denies that it lost the last election, sent goons to storm the seat of government, and is actively trying to deny people the ability to vote. But the real problem is "woke people" bumming you out by being all self-righteous.

Is it "woke" to accuse a massive group of people for the actions of a very small minority? Because if you are our example, then it would appear so.

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One of the major political parties in the United States denies that it lost the last election, sent goons to storm the seat of government, and is actively trying to deny people the ability to vote. But the real problem is "woke people" bumming you out by being all self-righteous.

I don’t see how both can’t be problems at the same time?

If you look at the commenter's history, it becomes clear that they are much more concerned with one than the other.

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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Gotta love the constant movement of goalposts and gaslighting around this. As in many other cases it started with claims that nobody intends to censor any content during the move. Then when deletions actually took place the narrative radically shifted to the claim that content removal was always the obvious, natural and reasonable course and there should be no controversy, because it was inevitable all along.

Sounds like they took a page from Ulbricht (Walter, not Ross!): "Nobody has any intention of building a wall", then shortly after starting construction of a wall to imprison the citizens of East Germany, and calling it "the antifascist bulwark". The GDR soldiers that shot fleeing citizens in the back were praised as heroes that defended the glorious Soviet Republic against traitors.

Another great quote: "It [the installation of a socialist government in East Germany] has to look democratic, but we must control everything."

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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The only reason I have a Spotify account is for Joe Rogan's podcast. I'm a Youtube premium member, so all the music I need comes from Google, except for Joe Rogan. He's a pro weed, universal health care loving, self-described left of center guy big in the MMA and stand-up comedy circles. He now has the world's most popular podcast, but because he frequently has guests who are right wing, despite debating them about t…

> Spotify exists to make investors money by creating value for the listeners. Okay, sure. > [...the rest of the post...] I don't see how this connects. > your opinions and the opinions of the employees don't matter But your opinion does? It must matter to you, since you spent a few paragraphs on it.

> But your opinion does? It must matter to you, since you spent a few paragraphs on it.

Guessing that what ljm meant was that those opinions shouldn't be important in their personal choice about what to listen to or not listen to.

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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It is not an absurd investment, Spotify is a commodity technology and taking away Joe Rogan podcast from their biggest competitor (Apple) provides much needed differentiation. Joe Rogan's podcast was the number one podcast on Apple Podcasts. Now it isn't available at all.

So you buy out Apple's number 1 podcast...and then Apple has another number 1 podcast. And you're sitting with a lame duck, as is evidenced by TFA. Is Spotify going to blow another 100 mil on that one and hope for the best? They messed up by betting large on a celebrity and ignoring the fact that Joe Rogan wasn't a cultural fit.

I don't think you understand the number of monthly listeners he draws, it was around 200 million or so. If you compare it to Howard Stern's contract of 100 million a year, it's really not a huge stretch for Joe Rogan to negotiate that price for a multi year deal and exclusive rights to the back catalog. You can't suddenly snap your fingers and generate a huge audience, extensive content and marque brand into existence.

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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Whom does Spotify try to aquisice here? Their users? Their content creators? Or rather their staff? All 3 groups could be possible reasons. But given how little median content creators matter to the organization, users and staff are more likely. But if it were the users, then why buy Joe Rogan's users at all? Especially at a record braking price? This makes me believe it's more likely staff. If that is the case one h…

Completely agree it's coming from employees and staff who believe their political ideology is the gospel and implementing cancel culture until there is no opposition is their goal. This largely stems from the bubble and lack of diversity in political ideology in the bay area and Europe.
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