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Interview with CEO of rsync.net: “no firewalls and no routers”

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Re: Interview with CEO of rsync.net: “no firewalls and no routers”

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Post by blabitty »

bigiain wrote: post #195
touisteur wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the threat model there? What if the system can't be upgraded for reasons? What if your service/gateway is just behind the 'network choke' (who said you had to have only one?). Are you paying to upgrade everyone and their perfectly working mainframes or java 8 apps to TLS 1.3? How do your intruders come in? They have to break the appliance? How's the chance you have better tuned/setup your TLS terminator or FW…

The threat model is that any foothold an attacker gets behind you TLS terminator potentially allows then to snoop plaintext traffic - which likely includes login creds and auth tokens for all those mainframes and java 8 apps. (Note, I do exactly this a bit myself - terminate TLS at Elastic Load Balancers - and I feel a little dirty about it ever4y time I'm reminded... I sometimes wonder if I spend more time ensuring…

Take a look at AWS nitro instances they give you "free" ipsec type network encryption with some caveats I forget.

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Post by hertzrat »

dsr_ wrote: post #180
hertzrat wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The firewall is still helpful in case they hire a new person who opens a port and forgets to close it one day

"Steve, did you open a port? We only use SSH. What's going on?"

Oversights happen

https://thenewstack.io/junior-dev-deleted-production-databas...

Re: Interview with CEO of rsync.net: “no firewalls and no routers”

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Post by brap »

poisonborz wrote: post #129

This was maybe the first service I see that was somewhat complex, but the 4 line main page header text clearly explained what the tool does - the subpages are also great, low-key, great reads. Kudos to whoever copywrote the site.

Yes, the site is really well written, and I absolutely love its "no bullshit" approach which obviously extends to the product itself (and the CEO, from what I can tell). Signal to noise ratio is great. I wish more companies were like this.

Having said that, I do think the site would really benefit from a new paint job. A good UXer can make it so much more aesthetically pleasing, while still retaining its simplicity and quick load time. It doesn't have to be fancy. Just static HTML with elegant styling and a few minor tweaks.

For example, I was really surprised to see big name clients such as Disney, 3M, ARM & ESPN hidden a few clicks away (behind a button which wasn't very informative, from what I remember). Same for being in business for 20 years. A good UX/product person will tell you to put this front and center in your landing page, and rightfully so.

@rsync: I love what you're doing, but please get a UX person involved :)

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Post by neetij »

tfsh wrote: post #159

Meta: I really dislike the style of console.dev, the article is shunted to the left and leaves the rest of the screen real estate to be taken up by an - albeit pretty - but unnecessary piece of digital artwork. This - https://ibb.co/nzbFxjW - is what the article looks like on my ultrawide which made for very uncomfortable viewing

I use a simple bookmarklet in such situations:

    javascript:(function(){w=window;d=w.document;b=d.querySelector('body');s=d.createElement('style');s.innerHTML='body{margin:0 auto!important;width:100%;max-width:120ch;font:normal 18px/1.5 Helvetica,Calibri,Arial,sans-serif;color:#333;background:#f9f9f9;}main,#main{margin:0 auto!important;}';b.setAttribute('style','');b.append(s);})();
It's pretty basic - changes body width to 120ch, centers body and main, and updates body font. Despite some issues, works great for a one-click fix.

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Post by alexhutcheson »

bigiain wrote: post #203
globular-toast wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would you prefer? Having an entire paragraph of text on a single line? Your monitor is the wrong shape.

That's a pretty unhelpful way of thinking about this. Any web designer who doesn't, in 2021, understand and make allowances for 4k/5k ultra wide monitors as well as phone sizes screens in portrait mode - isn't doing their job right. The problem here is not the monitor shape or the user's browser window width, it's the css (and maybe html) and the lack of understanding of how to use it properly (or, more sympathetical…

I wonder what % of users:

1. Have an ultra wide monitor.

2. Regularly use their browser in full width mode on it.

Pretty much everyone I know with an ultra wide snaps their browser to the left or right side - having a single browser window that wide is not very useful, and makes lots of websites look weird.

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Post by techrat »

chris1993 wrote: post #153
Crontab wrote: post #139

John's usage reminded me of something I read in Rob Rike's "Uses This" interview[1]: "I want no local storage anywhere near me other than maybe caches. No disks, no state, my world entirely in the network. Storage needs to be backed up and maintained, which should be someone else's problem, one I'm happy to pay to have them solve." [1] https://usesthis.com/interviews/rob.pike/

Essentially a Chromebook

Less so now that ChromeOS runs Android Apps and Linux in a VM. Both, unfortunately are heavily restricted to local storage so there's no real sense of being able to log into another Chromebook and have those ready and waiting for you. Android apps will reinstall but not always (read: almost never) with app data as before. Linux Apps is 100% manual still.

ChromeOS was great for 'switch to a new machine and log in' use... but it's so much more complex than that now. Only the most locked down managed devices wouldn't have to worry about anything left behind on a device before someone abandons it.

At this rate, short of a native package manager and repo for installing applications to run on ChromeOS (instead of a container Linux distro on top), ChromeOS might as well be considered a distro in of itself. Especially with CloudReady being installable on non-Google sanctioned hardware.

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Post by Craighead »

techrat wrote: post #216
chris1993 wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Essentially a Chromebook

Less so now that ChromeOS runs Android Apps and Linux in a VM. Both, unfortunately are heavily restricted to local storage so there's no real sense of being able to log into another Chromebook and have those ready and waiting for you. Android apps will reinstall but not always (read: almost never) with app data as before. Linux Apps is 100% manual still. ChromeOS was great for 'switch to a new machine and log in' use…

All of that is optional and manageable via Workspace admin console.

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Post by fuzxi »

reaperducer wrote: post #158
Alupis wrote: post #41

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What do you mean? You download an ISO, put it on a USB key or burn it to a CD, and install it like you would Windows10 or any other OS.

You download an ISO, put it on a USB key or burn it to a CD, and install it like you would Windows10 or any other OS. If only it was that easy all the time. I have an old laptop (2017) that I wasn't for anything else, using so I tried putting Linux on it. Nope. I went through five distributions before I found one that would finally work. And then, it was not really useable. The whole reason people use MacOS is becaus…

YMMV. I've installed several distros on my old laptop (2010) and never had any issues. Currently running Manjaro on it.

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Post by qudat »

alexhutcheson wrote: post #215
bigiain wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a pretty unhelpful way of thinking about this. Any web designer who doesn't, in 2021, understand and make allowances for 4k/5k ultra wide monitors as well as phone sizes screens in portrait mode - isn't doing their job right. The problem here is not the monitor shape or the user's browser window width, it's the css (and maybe html) and the lack of understanding of how to use it properly (or, more sympathetical…

I wonder what % of users: 1. Have an ultra wide monitor. 2. Regularly use their browser in full width mode on it. Pretty much everyone I know with an ultra wide snaps their browser to the left or right side - having a single browser window that wide is not very useful, and makes lots of websites look weird.

I’m inclined to agree. Even on a normal sized monitor I almost never fullscreen my browser.
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