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Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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I have a lot of questions, but I'd definitely pay if it worked. I've very slowly been getting more nearsighted, but I mainly avoid wearing glasses. My optometrist said that wearing glasses would speed the slide, although I'd eventually end up at the same level of myopia. I'd much rather wear glasses that fix the problem than make it worse.

Glasses don't make it worse, per your optometrist. You just notice where you need to be. I'm about a -9, I wear contacts as much as possible; so I thought that's what you were saying. Don't be afraid to wear glasses.

My optometrist definitely said that I would not end up with worse vision overall, but that my vision would get worse faster. So per my optometrist, glasses do make it worse by my criteria (but not by hers).

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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More details from the Bloomberg PR: Kubota Glasses technology works to reduce the increase in axial length associated with myopia by projecting myopically-defocused virtual images generated using micro-LEDS on the peripheral visual field to actively stimulate the retina. Passive stimulation using myopic defocus is already in use in the US with a contact lens, “MiSight^® 1 day” by CooperVision, which is U.S. Food and…

I read this as "We stuck a ring of LED's around some glasses based on some flimsy science. The glasses cost $0.50 to make, yet we can sell them for $10k a pair.".

Someone received $3000 surgical metal mesh gloves At their hospital.

Vendor forgot to takeoff the bass pro shop sticker.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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I have a lot of questions, but I'd definitely pay if it worked. I've very slowly been getting more nearsighted, but I mainly avoid wearing glasses. My optometrist said that wearing glasses would speed the slide, although I'd eventually end up at the same level of myopia. I'd much rather wear glasses that fix the problem than make it worse.

Note that if your eyes have different sight strength, you definitely should use glasses. Otherwise the brain learns that signal from one eye is meh, and stops using it as much—so the eye stops focusing.

I so wish mine would do so. Right eye is a worse prescription and seems tied to some minor brain damage.

Causes intense pain to use both eyes.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Reads like snake oil to me. I'd love to learn how this devices reshapes your eye lens when not worn. There are methods out there that people swear by, but I haven't seen a drop of evidence. I'd jump at the opportunity if it worked.

There is Orthokeratology, which physically deforms the cornea via a contact lens, and lasts about a day or two. But it isn't ideal, and can have bad outcomes.

I wore ortho-k lenses from about 10 years old into my twenties. I switched to daily disposables as I think they are more convenient but when I was younger and playing more sports the ortho-k lenses were great. There is also some evidence that they can prevent eyesight from deteriorating.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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It looks like the article doesn't have any details on how this works, anybody care to speculate on a potential mechanism here?

More details from the Bloomberg PR: Kubota Glasses technology works to reduce the increase in axial length associated with myopia by projecting myopically-defocused virtual images generated using micro-LEDS on the peripheral visual field to actively stimulate the retina. Passive stimulation using myopic defocus is already in use in the US with a contact lens, “MiSight^® 1 day” by CooperVision, which is U.S. Food and…

Strip the jargon away and this sounds like it's saying "wear weaker glasses" and the device is just a fancy way to still see normally while having a weaker prescription in your periphery?

Anecdotally, among a bunch of my friends who are (a) nearsighted, and (b) mad about sailing ships, spending a couple of weeks out at sea staring at the horizon will make a significant temporary difference to their myopia.

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How does this actually help treat nearsightedness when not wearing it? Does it change the shape of the eye ball?

It's probably based on the theory that over a longer time frame the eye adapts to slightly defocused images in order to bring them in focus. The key is that the image must be defocused only slightly, not grossly.

So wear slightly weaker glasses? Yep.

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BTW: -2 shortsightness is the optimal. You can see your own hands and what you are doing and eating until the day you die. I happen to be those lucky few. On sunny days the iris is so small I can manage without glasses.

I have slight myopia in one eye and normal vision in the other. I can pass the vision test for driving without correction.

I always thought normal vision in both eyes was the best. Now you're telling me my myopic eye might be an advantage later in life?

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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It's probably based on the theory that over a longer time frame the eye adapts to slightly defocused images in order to bring them in focus. The key is that the image must be defocused only slightly, not grossly.

It's amazing what the eye can adapt to. The story of the man who wore the glasses that turned everything upside down... and his brain just adapted to it and he saw things normally... is fascinating to me. And then there's my eyes. I have severe double vision (as a result of surgery last year) and my brain is just like "meh, suck it up"; and I'm left walking into things on regular basis because there's two of everythi…

Yeah, adaptation is incredible when it works but is also hit-and-miss. I don't like the trend of hyperventilating about "your body is amazing and can adapt to anything" because it comes with an unspoken rider of "so if you have problems it's probably just a character flaw".
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