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70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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post #99

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I generally agree that information from here related to the attack is in the public interest. But this is going to also reveal people who had no part of it. I don't think it's fair to justify revealing innocent peoples data.

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You can't be serious. There were literally millions of users on the platform.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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post #118

Where are the comments about how awful it is for people's private messages to be leaked? Or is this okay because the media told me these guys are the bad guys.

I'm not gonna lie: I find it very difficult to be upset by this when the site was a haven for people who want to mass executions for people like me. For me, the world is a little more complex than "privacy at all costs." It's hard to decide where to draw the line.

I would set the line at "following due process".

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Where are the comments about how awful it is for people's private messages to be leaked? Or is this okay because the media told me these guys are the bad guys.

The find the whole narrative of dehumanising Trump supporters to be sick. The memory of all the pathological mob like violence that occurred during the BLM movement which occurred worldwide should still be fresh in all of our memories. If only the actors who incited that violence were held to this same standard.

>The find the whole narrative of dehumanising Trump supporters to be sick.

And I find you comparing BLM movement to Trump's supporters "election fraud" bullshit to be absolutely sickening.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Where are the comments about how awful it is for people's private messages to be leaked? Or is this okay because the media told me these guys are the bad guys.

> media told me I create a Parler account myself out of curiosity's sake. The platform had basically no moderation, and was rife with open calls to violence. It was absolutely serving as a recruitment & coordination site for domestic terrorism.

Didn't we learn from 4/8chan that letting people post whatever they want (semi-)anonymously leads to disgusting behavior?

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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I tried to access some of this - went to: https://donk.sh/06d639b2-0252-4b1e-883b-f275eff7e792 Picked a URL from one of the files - eg.: https://parler.com/post/c86aa37121374606aa63439ff15362aa And put that into archive.is - eg.: https://web.archive.org/web/20210110213100/https://parler.co... All just seems to be Parler "tweets"; not particular interesting.

Let me be clear; nothing there that you could not find by just browsing Parler.

Maybe there is a deleted post somewhere and that could be interesting but since it is not marked and there a millions of URLs it is kind of useless.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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I've always been amazed at how hackers can exfiltrate so much data with no one even batting an eye. Doing the math, the pure data cost to Parler was $7,700 (($0.15/GB 10) + ($0.11/GB 40) + ($0.09/GB 20)) 1000 => $7,700 https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/aws-data-transfer-prices-re... Even the Chase Bank hack had an astronomical amount of data that didn't appear to set off any alarms.

At a certain scale it can be difficult to distinguish between data exfiltration and normal spikes in legitimate traffic.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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You are currently witnessing the result of defunding humanities in favor of technical education.

I have a feeling most of the professors in the Humanities departments would be not at all sympathetic to Parler or all the deplatforming happening around Donald Trump and his supporters. If anything they'd be broadcasting the Karl Popper "Paradox of Tolerance" as justification for everything that's been happening this week.

Humanities students do not and should not merely repeat their professors’ opinions. To do so almost entirely misses the point of being educated.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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post #169

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So, you agree with what I said.

Yeah, but you said it with what looked like a lot of sarcasm and criticism. I said it with a tone of "Oh shit, I could have done exactly the same thing". Empathy. But it's a fun point of the nuances of language, isn't it? Maybe I misunderstood you.

Maybe your takeaway there should be, "oh shit, I would have exactly the same thing, I need to rearrange my priorities so that I don't hurt people".

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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post #129

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A more obvious criterion would be that there's no implication the people who compromised Parler actually do any kind of research on computer security. The article indicates this was a script-kiddie level vulnerability. On the other hand if an actual researcher leaks data they're still a researcher; they might be a bad person, but that's orthogonal.

> On the other hand if an actual researcher leaks data they're still a researcher; they might be a bad person, but that's orthogonal. I would disagree. To me at least, the difference between researcher and hacker is what you do with the knowledge you have.

Hacker and researcher are not mutually exclusive.

A researcher seeks knowledge, a hacker seeks ways to apply knowledge to overcome obstacles, which includes seeking required knowledge and is knowledge itself.

The more interesting question is in what capacity someone was acting, if it wasn't both.

Anything else is like trying to find the difference between an employee and a pilot, as if they're mutually exclusive things.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hack is equivalent to if someone downloaded all of the content of Reddit, or a database of all tweets, if this post is to be believed: https://www.reddit.com/r/ParlerWatch/comments/kv0jo6/psa_the... . Would anyone even bat an eye if that happened?

From the original article > This may include things from deleted/private posts. I think people would be alarmed if private DMs were leaked from Twitter, yes. The data also includes the geolocations of posters.[1] Another comment also suggested that the photos of the driver's licenses that were used to verify users were also being downloaded, though I'm not certain if this is true. 1. https://gizmodo.com/every-deleted…

Yeah, but this apparently was all downloaded through Parler's publically accessible API, so if anyone should be to blame here, it is Parler.
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