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Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Why do these companies suddenly now care about enforcing the mantra of the integrity of the electoral system now, and not in 2016?

Why do these companies suddenly now care about sites hosting content that encourages violent activity now, and not in June?

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I have to give AWS some credit for this exchange with the customer. Normally in a situation like this the hosting company will never give you specifics and just ban your account. The fact that they specifically point out which user generated content is specifically breaking ToS is a refreshing change of pace.

It's also hard to argue whataboutism as more and more news and political websites shut down comments and user generated content and easily finding posts from nutjobs gets rarer.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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post #164

The same folks who think you can't force a bakery to bake a gay cake want to force Apple to distribute an app or Twitter to publish anyone's nonsense. You can't have it both ways. For the self-proclaimed free-marketers, how is this different? It's about scale. We have an antitrust issue, not a free speech issue.

You could reverse that no? The same people who think you should force someone to bake a cake now thinks a private company should not be forced to do anything. Just playing devils advocate.

By the way completely agree with you on antitrust. And its not a free speech issue.

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Are all of the people here who are saying that parler is full of all sorts of bad things actually on the website, or are you just sortof assuming that?

I went to go look at the site, and it requires me to sign in to do anything, and that requires a phone number. I don't want to give them my phone number.

Have you guys all seriously gone and signed up for accounts, given these people your phone number, and actually gone looking around?

I have family members who use this website. They're not neo nazis who are planning political violence, and I know for a fact that they would be mortified to know of somebody who fit that description in their social group. They're your standard issue Irish Catholics from northern Minnesota who heard that conservatives weren't allowed on twitter anymore, so they went and signed up for parler accounts (a petty revolution, but there isn't a lot to do in N. Minnesota in January except ice fish and snowmobile).

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post #198

The short term calculus seems pretty clear: if a service is unable to moderate conversations that are inciting and planning imminent violence that undermines the fabric of democratic society (aka inauguration or the disruption of the transfer of power over the next 12 days), its better to shut it off than keep it around in case that violence comes to pass. Precautionary principle applies and a circuit breaker goes of…

Not just "unable to moderate". Every platform has some content that they struggle to moderate due to scale issues. The issue with Parler is that they purposefully attracted the absolute dregs of society, and now there isn't much else on it other than plans and threats of violence. They're a half step above Gab, barely.

Edit: I'll note that Parler banned the DevinNunesCow parody account. They are fully capable of moderating when they want to, they just don't want to moderate calls for violence.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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People on the left are mistaken if they think this is going to help. Someone somewhere in the country will plot something. We are playing with fire with these type of restrictions, root causes are not being solved. 75 million people voted for Donald Trump.

They will, of course.

No need to make it easy for them to do it. Keep them off large-cast channels, let the FBI watch the small-cast.

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