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Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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No, how will this ever fix a corrupt system if you play by their rules? This is why it keeps getting worse and worse. People just comply!

They’re a $2 trillion dollar company, unless you have an incredibly strong case (this isn’t one) then you will lose a war of attrition every time... even sometimes if you do have a strong case. Choose your battles wisely, live to fight another day, etc... Pound for pound you’d likely be better off putting your energy into policy. The scale is still tilted there, but there is some traction behind fairer app marketplac…

You do this by leaving the platform. There are plenty of alternatives for Apple's products so those who get tired of the ever-increasing censorship inside the walled garden are better off outside of its walls. Eventually the Apple world will become something akin to Disneyland, nothing but "wholesome" infotainment without anything that could give offence.

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As someone who depends on amphetamines to function daily, it’s disheartening to see their use further stigmatized. For many people like me, amphetamines help them live a normal life. The app isn’t called “meth” or “methamphetamine” and it’s not referring to a street drug.

I’m saddened to see so many equating amphetamines to illicit drugs, when that’s simply not the full story. This perception is exactly what stops people from taking their medication when they should and balking at the idea of a medication being able to help them.

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I have used this while using Macs before and it's a pretty good tool. The name also some what makes sense since it's a "stronger" variant of the past tool.

What's really sad is why this kind of feature even needs to be implemented through a third-party application when it should really be handled on the OS side...

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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The name was approved by Apple years ago. The developer built the brand on that name. What changed? Apple's policies (on their whims). If Apple has to come down hard, they should bear the cost of the re-branding at least to measurably communicating widely regarding the rename. It is sad that Apple exercises so much power callously.

"The name was approved by Apple years ago"

This isn't going to be popular, however getting away with something for a period of time is not the same as being approved/sanctioned/etc. In the petition the author claimed that the app "spontaneously began violating" one of the guidelines, when clearly it has violated it all along. Yet that disingenuous angle is used constantly when people get away with something for a while and suddenly aren't.

As an aside, it's interesting that anyone thinks that making a big noise about this will cause Apple to revert their stance (as app using a pill as their icon, naming it after a controlled substance, and using narrative like "the most awesome keep-awake"). That is improbable. It seems much more likely that Apple will be very certain this app is renamed, and the narrative changed.

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Apple and many others: "In all, ASPI’s research has identified 82 foreign and Chinese companies potentially directly or indirectly benefiting from the use of Uyghur workers outside Xinjiang through abusive labour transfer programs as recently as 2019: Abercrombie & Fitch, Acer, Adidas, Alstom, Amazon, Apple, ASUS, BAIC Motor, Bestway, BMW, Bombardier, Bosch, BYD, Calvin Klein, Candy, Carter’s, Cerruti 1881, Changan A…

I am mad at all of them for their labor practices. Even if I wasn't, one company doing something nefarious isn't vindicated because others are doing same.

Are they ‘doing something nefarious’?

At what point did they become aware that forced labor was being used, and what are they trying to do to change the situation?

If you don’t know the answer to these questions, it seems unclear that they are ‘doing something nefarious’.

I think doing business in China inevitably creates exposure to these problems.

I think people knew China had problems like this when they started investing there.

However I don’t think anyone anticipated China getting worse in this way.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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FYI, there is an open-source alternative with the less catchy but less controversial name, KeepingYouAwake. (Note that Amphetamine has more advanced features, if you need them.) https://github.com/newmarcel/KeepingYouAwake

You can also just use the built-in Terminal app and run the built-in executable named “caffeinate”, it’s free and provided by Apple: https://ss64.com/osx/caffeinate.html While the command has a few options, just typing the word at the terminal and hitting enter will stop your Mac from going to sleep, etc. A long time ago I worked for a company that had a terrible policy for inactivity screen lock that kept interfering with my ability to get work done, and the caffeinate command helped me prevent screen lock when I needed it to.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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You’re angry. I’ve felt this in a trademark lawsuit. You think the world should get behind you and change the corrupt system. My advice is to immediately rebrand as gracefully and effectively as possible and use all that activist energy to effect the transition. They kind of have a point which doesn’t make them right, but they hold all the cards and you will lose this one and regret the wasted bandwidth.

Agreed. I've found that there's a meta-skill in life: accepting that one can't right every injustice, and to not let that fact prevent you from being happy.

Sure, but that also doesn't mean you should stop voicing your concerns publicly at injustice. Being angry at some injustice doesn't automatically make you unhappy too, if the anger is used constructively and positively. You can voice your concern and be practical too.

The article is actually quite well written and even highlights, with examples, how Apple applies such naming rules arbitrarily.

I've said this before - all developers who distribute their apps through the macOS / ios app store should feel like a JACKASS for not only giving Apple control over distribution, but also paying them for the same. YOU DEVELOPERS ARE THE ONE WHO CREATE MORE VALUE FOR THESE APPLE PLATFORMS - why in the hell do you think it is some kind of "privilege" to PAY them for it??

With its exclusive app store, Apple acts like a CORRUPT bureaucrat who unnecessarily imposes himself in the middle of you and your clients, demanding a bribe from both to connect you and them. Thus, increasing costs for your clients, and reducing your profits!

Especially on the macOS, which Apple is desperately trying to turn into a closed platform like ios, developers are being incredibly SHORT-SIGHTED by distributing apps on its app store and adding more value to something that will end up hurting them when everyone's choice is ultimately limited to it.

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Honestly if your name your product stupid things I would think that some of us might be choosing not to download your product as a result. And if a store decides not to sell your product because of this it’s really their prerogative. Saying you violated their terms with impunity for 6 years doesn’t mean they lose the right to correct the mistake. This name is pretty rings rather badly in my ears, though I’m not offen…

> I’m not offended by the word “fuck” but I don’t really want to buy products that are named that. Then don't. How is this relevant? They say the app has been downloaded 500,000 times, so many people are fine with the name. These stories keep coming; they should remind us that nothing is more precious than the open web, and all those stores or walled gardens, their "rules" and vague TOS are the ennemy.

In my mind maybe this is something like an HOA. Sure, your friends might love your house parties, but your neighbors have to deal with the consequences

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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You’re angry. I’ve felt this in a trademark lawsuit. You think the world should get behind you and change the corrupt system. My advice is to immediately rebrand as gracefully and effectively as possible and use all that activist energy to effect the transition. They kind of have a point which doesn’t make them right, but they hold all the cards and you will lose this one and regret the wasted bandwidth.

Honestly if your name your product stupid things I would think that some of us might be choosing not to download your product as a result. And if a store decides not to sell your product because of this it’s really their prerogative. Saying you violated their terms with impunity for 6 years doesn’t mean they lose the right to correct the mistake. This name is pretty rings rather badly in my ears, though I’m not offen…

What if it was "caffeine"?

A stimulant drug, just happens to be legal.

Or Coca? A plant that release a stimulant when chewed.

Now if the app was called "Sweet Meth", you'd have a better parallel with "fuck sleep", but it's not.

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