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Re: Google Stories

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It’s pretty cool. If you make a url return data that is visually aligned with “a story protocol” google will put it at top of relevant search results. Think of it as a mini-html site that follows a specific set of visual JS and CSS protocols so that consumers have guarantee of its behavior (will not have crazy ads, gifs or third party content) and behaves consistently. Kind of interesting avenue for publishing conten…

So, another AMP-style thing where Google uses their platform and network effect to further encroach on the open web and turn it into the Google web? The quote you see at first is: "Stories meet their widest audience ever." Given that the widest audience is anyone who wants to search for something, this seems like a massive anti-trust bait. Also, hard-pass on the continual dumbing down of content to contribute to the…

I know this comes up every time Google/AMP is involved, but .. what's the argument that AMP is anti-competitive? It's and open protocol, you can make your own AMP crawler, content-maker, parser, etc?

I agree that the continued increase of "shiny"-ness of "content" is basically hacking people's attention and it should be drastically clamped down - but still, I don't see the argument for how Google and AMP and the "open web" and competition interact together. What are the relevant consequences and "market forces", whose responsibility is what, etc. Could someone explain it? Thanks!

Re: Google Stories

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When I see things like this I laugh and laugh and laugh about the naive view usually presented in HN that the "best minds of our generation" are all in FAANGs. Move over Peter Scholze, Terry Tao and Magnus Carlsen, the Google(TM) kids who just copied TikTok/Instagram have just arrived.

Ah geez, I really don’t want to derail this, but Magnus Carlsen is not one of the “best minds of our generation”, he’s remarkably good at a game that rewards memory and pattern matching. I don’t think even Magnus Carlsen thinks of himself in that way, no one in the chess world does, as far as I know. Most serious chess players don’t make the mistake of thinking their skills translate very well.

I mean, what does ”best mind” even mean though? For some definitions he might fit the bill.

Re: Google Stories

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Am I the only one who, after reading the landing page, still has no idea what this is? I’ve been watching “immersive” websites for quite some time, mostly marketing-ish websites but also sometimes some special purpose pages from National Geografic or NYT. What exactly is this? A JavaScript/CSS framework? Something like AMP? Or is it a social network like Snapchat? I’m genuinely confused what I’m looking at and feel o…

From what I gather with a cursory look, it's basically making a Snapchat/Instagram/Facebook story under your own domain as an extension of AMP.

Yes - a blog in other words!

Re: Google Stories

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The show cases make things slightly more clear. It seems like a framework for creating short vertical-orientated chaptered videos with fancy captions and that play mute by default. Why anyone would want this? I do not know. https://stories.google/showcase/

Congrats, we are all old! Snapchat and Vine started it, and now TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook are all neck-deep in it. Every single one is dominated by this content in 2020, with perhaps the only area where text is still a main thing being Discord (although voice-chat is the attractive bit for gamers) & the streaming world (Twitch comments, youtube comments, niche Twitter communities). Whether we like it or not tha…

> although voice-chat is the attractive bit for gamers

Join any big Discord gaming group and I guarantee you'll see more people chatting via text than using the audio functionality.

Re: Google Stories

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So, another AMP-style thing where Google uses their platform and network effect to further encroach on the open web and turn it into the Google web? The quote you see at first is: "Stories meet their widest audience ever." Given that the widest audience is anyone who wants to search for something, this seems like a massive anti-trust bait. Also, hard-pass on the continual dumbing down of content to contribute to the…

I know this comes up every time Google/AMP is involved, but .. what's the argument that AMP is anti-competitive? It's and open protocol, you can make your own AMP crawler, content-maker, parser, etc? I agree that the continued increase of "shiny"-ness of "content" is basically hacking people's attention and it should be drastically clamped down - but still, I don't see the argument for how Google and AMP and the "ope…

It's a protocol pushed by one company that wants to bend the web to fit it's purposes. To do that, Google ranks AMP pages more highly. And that's anti competitive and breaks search.

One reason Google wants the whole web to be "standard" is so they can scrape all information more easily, show users rich content by stealing your website's traffic, and create an internet information silo.

Re: Google Stories

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> What are Stories? > Web Stories are a web-based version of the popular “Stories” format that blend video, audio, images, animation and text to create a dynamic, less formal consumption experience that goes beyond a simple play button. This visual format lets you explore content at your own pace by tapping through it, or swiping from one piece of content to the next. It looks like a format to let Google put small we…

Vomit. The web is turning into Entertainment Tonight, the show my mom used to watch. Ads disguised as content.

Absolute trash. For most searches these days alternative search engines are proving much more effective to me. Can I just get a simple list of results please??

Re: Google Stories

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The Google app on my iPhone enabled this a few weeks ago (The home section shows news below the search bar.) The UX was extremely confusing as there was no scrolling, swiping changed stories, and tapping went to the next page. The content was 90% image and 10% text and was extremely annoying to read. It was also inconsistent from other content, as unlike the other "non-story" items, I could not change preferences (ie…

> The UX was extremely confusing as there was no scrolling, swiping changed stories, and tapping went to the next page. The content was 90% image and 10% text and was extremely annoying to read.

Yup, as much as I also hate the format, that's the format of stories as popularised by Snapchat/Instagram/TikTok etc. Keep it all very slick, but devoid of content.

Re: Google Stories

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From what I gather with a cursory look, it's basically making a Snapchat/Instagram/Facebook story under your own domain as an extension of AMP.

Yes - a blog in other words!

Blogger but in the style of tumblr (shortness) but with AMP and nice publicity.

Wait five years. It will not be there.

Re: Google Stories

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post #43

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> What are Stories? > Web Stories are a web-based version of the popular “Stories” format that blend video, audio, images, animation and text to create a dynamic, less formal consumption experience that goes beyond a simple play button. This visual format lets you explore content at your own pace by tapping through it, or swiping from one piece of content to the next. It looks like a format to let Google put small we…

Vomit. The web is turning into Entertainment Tonight, the show my mom used to watch. Ads disguised as content.

Already predicted by Silvester Stallone (Demolition Man).
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