Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

Post by robertfw » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 7:11 PM UTC

speeder wrote: post #194

parliament32 wrote: post #178

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I can share to Signal or contacts-via-Signal, and have been for years... I think this is a you problem. Signal is honestly fantastic as a SMS-replacement app. It sends Signal messages to contacts with Signal and normal SMS to contacts without (Telegram might do the same thing, being able to set it as your default SMS app, I'm not sure).

In Brazil this is a GREAT reason to NOT use it. In fact phone operators for a while tried to ban whatsapp here, SMS prices in Brazil are just nuts (it is normal for an SMS cost fifty cents or so, sometimes even more, a full SMS conversation can cost you several days worth of food). Everyone here just uses whatsapp, because of how ridiculous SMS prices are.

Post by Raphmedia » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 7:17 PM UTC

schmorptron wrote: post #150

l1ghthouse wrote: post #75

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I know Telegram is less secure and Secret Chats are an opt-in. Security-wise Signal would be better... but: Signal experience isn't that good. Alien from the platform they run on. For example, no system recommendations to send this person a message or share something with them through signal.. Telegram is more a platform native and integrated into the system. Also there is the issue of messages arriving late (not min…

On android, I see signal right next to all of the other messaging apps when sharing a photo or some other type of supported file.

Post by parliament32 » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 7:22 PM UTC

speeder wrote: post #194

parliament32 wrote: post #178

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I can share to Signal or contacts-via-Signal, and have been for years... I think this is a you problem. Signal is honestly fantastic as a SMS-replacement app. It sends Signal messages to contacts with Signal and normal SMS to contacts without (Telegram might do the same thing, being able to set it as your default SMS app, I'm not sure).

In Brazil this is a GREAT reason to NOT use it. In fact phone operators for a while tried to ban whatsapp here, SMS prices in Brazil are just nuts (it is normal for an SMS cost fifty cents or so, sometimes even more, a full SMS conversation can cost you several days worth of food). Everyone here just uses whatsapp, because of how ridiculous SMS prices are.

Post by sanatkapur » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 7:33 PM UTC

csharptwdec19 wrote: post #191

vageli wrote: post #181

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> > Saying everything is so integrated that it can't possibly be decentralized is basically proof of monopoly. > This doesn't matter from the standard of antitrust law. What most fail to grasp is that being a monopoly is not illegal. It's only illegal to use monopoly power to harm consumer welfare. Citation needed? I thought, in the US at least, that the government will go after you if you use your monopoly powers to…

It depends on how the Justice department feels, to some extent. GM in the 50s and 60s actually kept an eye on their market share, and sometimes would kill/cutback projects or products that may have threatened going over a certain percentage (around 60%, IIRC.) At that time merely going over that number would have been enough to start an investigation. Some would argue though that back then DOJ 'cared' more.

Post by enjoyyourlife » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 7:34 PM UTC

dalbasal wrote: post #172

andjd wrote: post #151

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Ok, so instead of breaking you up into three companies, we'll break you up into 4. The fourth can own the messaging infrastructure and license it out to anyone interested. I can find a legal solution to your technical blockades. Be careful what you ask for.

>I can find a legal solution to your technical blockades. Be careful what you ask for. legislative... senator.