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Vitamin D insufficiency may account for almost 90% of Covid-19 deaths

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Post by AstralStorm »

Ragib_Zaman wrote: post #13

I highly recommend watching this video: https://youtu.be/Kvh4D_osFXs Sunlight gives us vitamin D and nitric oxide (which improves blood flow and reduces hypertension). Vitamin D is crucial for the functioning of our immune systems, and the 1000IU dosage of many supplements is laughably small. A light skinned person in a singlet standing outside at noon for 30 minutes will produce between 10,000IU and 20,000IU in thei…

Different place. Skin is big area and the vitamin gets relatively slowly transported to liver for storage. On the other hand, eaten D3 is absorbed very quickly with a fatty meal and you could obviously damage your liver with it.

EPIC series of studies suggests dosage of 2000-3000 IU for all cause lowest mortality. (Europe, regardless of diet. Caucasian.)

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Post by Arech »

UShouldBWorking wrote: post #107
alfalfasprout wrote: post #102

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Well, you'd be surprised how much great research doesn't make it into Nature, et al. I wouldn't discount the paper purely because of that.

Also, an actual peer reviewed paper came out recently that showed giving vitamin d to covid patients upon admitting them did not decrease death rates. I'll look for the link but it was front page here like two weeks ago.

There's nothing contradictory in it. It may take several months to restore normal Vitamin D level from the state of deficiency, so it's very long process. On average much longer than typical Covid duration.

Proper Vitamin D level should be reached _before_ contact with the virus. Then the data would be valuable and helpful. Theirs data doesn't show much, imho.

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Post by stickfigure »

nobody9999 wrote: post #171
TechBro8615 wrote: post #163

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AFAIU you can’t donate blood if you’re gay. At least, I saw some segment on Anderson Cooper where he claimed that was the case.

>AFAIU you can’t donate blood if you’re gay. At least, I saw some segment on Anderson Cooper where he claimed that was the case. That's not actually true. There are some restrictions if you're a man who has sex with men, but you're certainly not permanently barred from giving blood. cf. https://nybloodcenter.org/donate-blood/become-donor/can-i-do...

> There are some restrictions if you're a man who has sex with men

This is a weird way of phrasing it. More accurate would be: You may not donate if you are a man who has sex with men. The only way to donate is to 1) stop having sex with other men and 2) wait 3 months.

I'd say "you can't donate blood if you're gay" is a pretty close approximation.

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Post by adrianN »

neuronic wrote: post #208
adrianN wrote: post #135

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"Treat it as if it were a preprint" is different from discounting the paper.

That's the science-snobby way of dismissing it.

Not at all, preprints are very important because the publishing process can take many months. In fast moving fields (e.g. COVID research) working with preprints is vital if you want to do cutting edge research.

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Post by w14 »

stordoff wrote: post #44
dorfsmay wrote: post #11

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In winter, in the more northerly latitudes, being outside is not sufficient, because of the angle at which the sun ray hit, the skin cannot make vitamin D.

For instance in the UK: > At latitudes below 37ᵒN, UVB radiation is sufficient for year round vitamin D synthesis. At higher latitude, vitamin D is not synthesised during the winter months. In the UK, sunlight-induced vitamin D synthesis is only effective between late March/early April and September and not from October onwards throughout the winter months. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/…

Indeed, and so the UK Gov has decided to give free vitamin D suppliments to risk groups this winter.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/at-risk-groups-to-receive...

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Post by DoreenMichele »

themihai wrote: post #132
g42gregory wrote: post #120

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I think that easy and inexpensive treatment methods are getting very skeptical reception by the medical community. My sense is that this is the training from the medical school, which in turn, is influenced (to a degree of course) by the pharmaceutical companies.

I think the inexpensive treatments are abused by many different actors because they carry little or no cost to develop, thus there is reason a to be sceptical. For example you can find a lot of supplements that claim to cure various cancers and many have been proven to have no effect. People even claim that objects or they by themselves cure diseases. If not much money or effort has been put into a 'treatment' you ha…

You can search my comment history under both this handle and Mz. It goes back more than 11 years.

I've spent nearly 20 years getting better when that's supposed to be impossible. I've done so while dirt poor and even homeless for several years. What I've spent to get better is a drop in the bucket compared to the millions my condition is supposed to cost under conventional treatment while merely slowing your slow, gruesome, torturous death.

No one's interested and I've been thrown off of various forums over the years and been openly hated on and called a liar, teller of tall tales and insane.

No wants it because no one will get rich off of it. No one wants it because I'm a former homemaker, not a physician or scientist. And no doubt several other reasons, none of which I can really fathom.

The world basically agrees with you, turns a blind eye to any and all evidence to the contrary and actively tries to silence people like me.

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Post by jwilk »

andi999 wrote: post #29
dorfsmay wrote: post #11

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In winter, in the more northerly latitudes, being outside is not sufficient, because of the angle at which the sun ray hit, the skin cannot make vitamin D.

What is the correct angle?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_Sun_angle_on_climate

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Post by bawolff »

lostlogin wrote: post #210
Fishysoup wrote: post #164

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There's no such thing as an "immune booster". The immune system is incredibly complex and nuanced, and there isn't a knob (or 10) that you can tweak to turn it up or down. It exists in a continuum of largely understood configurations, and it can learn and adapt (not always with good results). If anything, "boosting" it as in turning up immune activity is usually terrible (think auto-immune disorders, inflammation, ca…

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Just because a word has two meanings does not mean you can equate one meaning with the other.

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Post by berryjerry »

elcomet wrote: post #203
DevX101 wrote: post #79

Authors controlled for age, sex. But I'd like to see additional control for race. Black people have less Vitamin D due to melanin blocking sunlight. And black people are disproportionately impacted by COVID. So I'm now curious whether it's really Vitamin D deficiency that's causing the poor outcomes, or some racial socioeconomic factor that Vitamin D is simply a marker for.

> And black people are disproportionately impacted by COVID. Only on America. You say it like it's the case in the whole world.

Precisely. Black is no more important than a descriptor than say eye color or hair color in relation to covid. The reality is black population in the US are more obese than the white population, which is a major comorbidity, hence the higher death rate from covid. Meanwhile in Africa there is a much lower death rate than blacks in the US, as well as a lower death rate than Americans as a whole.
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