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Application trust is hard, but Apple does it well

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It’s pretty easy to conclude that Apple will remove software the deliberately breaches their terms of service. Epic knew it, and the chose to breach the terms of service on purpose to cause this effect. Epic intentionally triggered a contract term that they knew would result in their software being removed from their customer’s devices. They were given an opportunity by both Apple and the court to restore their softw…

I don't support what Epic did but whether or not it was justified is irrelevant here. A modification was made to the functionality of your device after the moment of purchase, that remains true regardless. And you could not have foreseen that specific modification to your device unless you worked at Epic and had internal knowledge of their plans. You effectively need to know what every company in the world is doing t…

Your standard can never be met. Even if no changes were made after the sale, no human can fully predict the behavior of even an open source modern operating system, let alone a closed source one.

But I disagree that people weren’t informed. It is common knowledge and widely advertised that Apple issues software updates, and it is widely known that Apple enforces its store rules.

The information about what changes could be made and by whom was readily available to purchasers.

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Mac market share is less than 10% in the US, even lower in other countries. I personally know at least one person who is considering not buying one next time around just because of this incident. Some people use tools that lock them onto a Mac, but most of that is just people that have to develop for Macs (and they’re stuck no matter what Apple does, because they need to test on Macs). The iOS/App Store monopoly argu…

> The iOS/App Store monopoly arguments are one thing, but 10% is a monopoly now? It goes the other direction. If you want to develop for iOS you have to get a Mac even if you don't want one. Moreover, this behavior is objectionable regardless of market share, because a platform excluding alternative stores segregates that platform into a different market. If you're a developer whose customers use a Mac, and Apple sta…

> It goes the other direction. If you want to develop for iOS you have to get a Mac even if you don't want one.

Very annoying that you can't use an old Lisa development system like the ones Apple required for the original Macintosh.

Re: Application trust is hard, but Apple does it well

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The Apple defenses are all over HN today. Honestly feels like astroturfing after the OCSP fiasco. If it's not astrptufing, I don't think I can understand the mindset of a consumer who feels the need to defend the world richest corporation from criticism.

It's not surprising when those customers are repeatedly criticised and insulted for buying a product they like. It's the same as that Clinton comment about Trump voters being deplorables. Insulting people won't change their mind, rather it entrenches their views.

Woah. Is there much if any criticism of Apple customers? I can't recall a single instance in all the Apple threads I've read here.

Plenty of criticism of Apple itself, but that is not a criticism of their customers.

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