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Burnout can exacerbate work stress, further promoting a vicious circle

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Re: Burnout can exacerbate work stress, further promoting a vicious circle

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the twist is to make others wash dishes obviously

Ideally build a machine to wash the dishes, then build a company to build and sell the machines.

That loses your ability to charge them a recurring subscription plan. Maximize profit, acquire currency.

Re: Burnout can exacerbate work stress, further promoting a vicious circle

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Sleep as long as you can.

Respectfully, mental health is way more complex than that. Psychologists have to study for 15+ years...

Downvoted to -3

The HN crowds cleary knows more than psychologists.

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Motivation is likely not the right word here, in my experience of burn out, depression hits pretty hard and you stop doing things for yourself due to lack of joy/seeing the point in doing anything. "Finding motivation" from finding the joy in things is what I hope to recover. Also starting new habits and not tying so much of myself to my work/current company is something I have to learn better to do and is a goal of…

Based on (recent & ongoing) personal experience (which luckily includes not having to work, still getting full salary and therapy/shrink) and learning from that - longer break is obviously good, though likely not enough in longer term. Exactly that combination of "you care deeply about the area you are working in" and "hard to turn off" (even with less of "very ambitious company") - will eventually bring you back to…

I definitely resonate with the guilt aspect. The emotions stirred by work, in general, have been a struggle for me. Emotional work is one of the most productive ways I've found to mitigate and reduce the effects of diminished motivation (especially from depression and its cousins).

I've talked about it some in the past, re: MKP and other men's support groups along those lines (or just a solid group of friends). Much of it is just recognizing the emotion(s) and putting myself into a place where I can express/vent it properly.

Along those lines actually, has anyone else noticed a boost/burst of energy/productivity/etc after the elections last week? I think thats a malaise that hasnt really been talked about much (yet).

Re: Burnout can exacerbate work stress, further promoting a vicious circle

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Been in this case a couple jobs; both MSP jobs naturally. When you're burnt out you just don't see it. In both of my previous jobs the burnout also had a boss who was consistently micromanaging and saying you aren't working hard enough. This is one of the weaknesses of government. A fundamental law that governments should have is that your employer cannot harm your health. Even in mental cases like burnout, the emplo…

I'm in the reverse situation, I'm free to do whatever I please and plan work myself, nobody really track my work besides the item that I placed there myself, the burn out is mostly coming from having too many meetings, not being able to relate to the product, and not being supported or having peers to exchange ideas with.

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Sodexo washes your dishes (etc) and has a $10.6B market cap.

Sodexo sources dish-washing people. They're recruitment / labour hire / logistics. Dish washing (or whatever other actual physical outputs) are just a side effect of their actual business.

I believe Sodexo is a contractor that offers kitchen services, among other things. Companies pay Sodexo to wash dishes.

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A hard workout, waking up early and avoiding caffeine help me a lot with insomnia.

A "hard" workout. A hard workout can send cortisol through the roof and there will be little sleep.

Depends on the timing of the workout, but speaking from personal experience an all day hike is perfect for generating a deep, restful night's sleep.
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