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It depends on who you are on what you define as hate. The sites both have a very clear political preference. And both are harsh towards the other. But the chans due to the way the work have less of a vendetta style activism and mostly ignore or ridicule outsiders. There's some rough language - I would say on average the chans are certainly more direct and less signaling, but the lows are pretty equal for both sites.…
One regularly talks about killing Jews and one doesn't.
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> to point out that conspiracies like this aren't purely fantasy You're doing it again! You can't justify belief in a baseless conspiracy theory by saying that some other vaguely related thing was true! You can't. The logic doesn't work. And it's expressly harmful, because now that "justified" belief can be weaponized to hurt your political enemies. Stop it.
I don't think it's appropriate to say things like "Stop it". Please do me the courtesy of not treating me like a child and acting like you are instructing me. The QAnon conspiracy is about pedophiles in government. The Rotterham scandal is about pedophiles enabled by government. The Epstein case is a mix of pedophiles and government. It's not crazy to suggest that pedophiles are mixed up with the government. We have…
Trump has several claims of rape against him, has been known to be on Pedophilia flights and private trips with Epstein and walked in on pageant changing rooms and other things.
If QAnon was about pedophilia, it would be about pedophilia. BUt its not.
It's really about projection. Make enemies of people with baseless claims so they believe its true.
Sad really.
He's using your desire to not be censored to fill your desire for hate. And anyone who disagrees with your hate violates your freedom to talk about it. Everything you don't believe in is fake news.
It's a reality distortion field.
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#213Pay close attention to social media companies and privately run social networks and forums. I used to work for a major social media network that was growing and eventually stalled. If you run a social network and it gets popular you're going to run into major problems that no one talks about. 1.) Multiple governments, private organization and luddites send people to your company to compromise the source code. 2.) Peo…
I didn't understand the 4th. Besides competitor networks, what would anyone have against another social network being started?
Methinks OP has had a few too many pints this evening.
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#214For example, the concrete blockhouse where my neighborhood's DSL modems live sites on land owned by an entity that hasn't existed for a decade. This is according to the county auditor, who is the highest non-judicial authority when it comes to real estate ownership. When CenturyLink bought the old telco they never bothered to update the deed.
That doesn't mean I can go squat on that land.
It just means the records weren't updated when the acquisition happened.
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#215Are ip address blocks registered to defunct companies a relatively common thing? Clearly ARIN isn't regularly checking whether the owners of ip address blocks are still in business, so I'd imagine there are plenty of other blocks that belong to defunct companies.
I understand that being articulated around old school paper administrations rather than automated APIs that stuff can easily be ignored (especially in places like the US where legislation is highly fragmented), but you'd think that the starvation for IPv4 would be a good enough incentive for people to go after those low-hanging fruits.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24876963
That doesn't mean the land, or the IP addresses, are abandoned.
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> The best antidote for bad ideas and conspiracy theories is transparency and public debate. Have you actually tried that? I have. I spent quite a while when I was in law school on some Usenet groups where tax conspiracy theorists hung out, thoroughly refuting their arguments (it was a good way for me to practice legal research). The problem was that the people who were coming up with the totally false but believable…
Yes, debate doesn't seem to work very well. The "persuaders" just pivot to another nonsense claim, and you waste a ton of time debunking it. It has to start with public culture. People should be a little embarrassed to be wrong; they should strive to be right. They should demand evidence. We're losing that. The rise of anti-intellectualism is allowing this fungus to grow and spread.
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"Destroying people with facts and logic" isn't how human psychology works (in fact: attempts to do that often harden existing beliefs), and without that axiom I think the rest of this analysis falls apart.
> "Destroying people with facts and logic" isn't how human psychology works Completely agree that this isn't how human psychology works. However, in debate (which is what is happening here), facts and logic can indeed be used to vanquish one's counterpart. When the facts are in favour of one side of the debate, it is fairly typical that they will leverage them in the debate. If you observe a debate where one side doe…
Had you been referring to HN, you'd still have been wrong: "destroying" with anything, facts and logic included, is opposite to the spirit of this site.
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#218Regarding ARIN listing a defunct entity as owner: keep in mind that TONS of telecom infrastructure is listed as being owned by defunct companies that were acquired/merged into other companies, or simply reincorporated in a new jurisdiction. For example, the concrete blockhouse where my neighborhood's DSL modems live sites on land owned by an entity that hasn't existed for a decade. This is according to the county aud…
http://www.centurylink.com/static/PDF/AboutUs/DoingBusiness/...
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#219Regarding ARIN listing a defunct entity as owner: keep in mind that TONS of telecom infrastructure is listed as being owned by defunct companies that were acquired/merged into other companies, or simply reincorporated in a new jurisdiction. For example, the concrete blockhouse where my neighborhood's DSL modems live sites on land owned by an entity that hasn't existed for a decade. This is according to the county aud…
Acquired isn't defunct. The archaically named entity that owns your local telco cabinet almost certainly still exists: http://www.centurylink.com/static/PDF/AboutUs/DoingBusiness/...
Acquirors don't keep their acquisitions' corpses registered forever.