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Re: Cognitive deficits in people who have recovered from Covid-19

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Post by neuronic » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 9:53 AM UTC

vekker wrote: post #56

neuronic wrote: post #34

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People are unable to worry about or comprehend the effects that happen right NOW. I am a staunch believer in post-viral syndrome as I experienced it first hand following an Epstein-Barr infection (mono) but aside from a handful of researchers nobody cares at all. For most physicians, it isn't even within the realm of possibilities when you come to them with random maladies. Boom, now you have anxiety because that's w…

This might seem a bit out there / like woo woo to some, but have you tried "breathing exercises" (intermittent hypoxia) and cold exposure to counter those effects you are talking about? Particularly, the Wim Hof Method? I know it helps for people with autoimmune diseases anecdotally, but there's also some good scientific evidence for it.

Yep, and it certainly helps. Also Dr. Joe Dispenza's Mind Body Connection. I think a lot comes from stress, anxiety and dealing with your body with a wrong mindset.

But it doesn't explain all the issues away.

Re: Cognitive deficits in people who have recovered from Covid-19

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Post by biolurker1 » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 11:40 AM UTC

bamboozled wrote: post #206

biolurker1 wrote: post #205

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I'm describing something that happened in the thread and you flip it around with something that didn't?

People do hope for bad things to happen, there are pessimists and optimists. You've interpreted this data is bad and you feel others should feel bad about it. Maybe that's not a conclusion most feel they need to agree too? Don't forget this study isn't completely proven other factors might be at play.

I did not interpret anything. We are. Discussing about an article and a comment that is factual wrong according to the article. Don't fight facts and don't confuse them with opinions.

Re: Cognitive deficits in people who have recovered from Covid-19

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Post by bamboozled » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:12 PM UTC

biolurker1 wrote: post #212

bamboozled wrote: post #206

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People do hope for bad things to happen, there are pessimists and optimists. You've interpreted this data is bad and you feel others should feel bad about it. Maybe that's not a conclusion most feel they need to agree too? Don't forget this study isn't completely proven other factors might be at play.

I did not interpret anything. We are. Discussing about an article and a comment that is factual wrong according to the article. Don't fight facts and don't confuse them with opinions.

Yes and the severity and the true cause of the symptoms is still not set in stone, so you're confused because correlation does not imply causation.

It's a study and more needs to be done.

Re: Cognitive deficits in people who have recovered from Covid-19

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Post by Izkata » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 4:31 PM UTC

dhimes wrote: post #196

bamboozled wrote: post #155

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You have never had a bad flu and had cognitive trouble during recovery? I had a flu once and lost 6kgs in less than 10 days and I was physically and mentally wrecked for some time.

I had a nasty flu-like something a few years back and lost weight like that too. I didn't notice any lingering issues after maybe 2 1/2 or 3 weeks. The flu had me in bed for a week and weak for ten days or so and yes, it took a while longer to fully recover. But I did fully recover. And apparently the effect is real and exists. I just never heard anyone say about the flu, "get your flu shot or else face a real possib…

The single biggest thing I've learned about viruses from this pandemic isn't that Covid19 is bad, it's that people (myself included) conflate the flu with the common cold and end up underestimating it.

I have a suspicion the "it's just a flu" crowd are aware of this and the different understanding of the severity of seasonal flu viruses is where the misunderstanding is, that what they're really saying is more like "this other thing is just as bad and we don't stop the world for it".

Re: Cognitive deficits in people who have recovered from Covid-19

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Post by biolurker1 » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 9:18 PM UTC

bamboozled wrote: post #213

biolurker1 wrote: post #212

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I did not interpret anything. We are. Discussing about an article and a comment that is factual wrong according to the article. Don't fight facts and don't confuse them with opinions.

Yes and the severity and the true cause of the symptoms is still not set in stone, so you're confused because correlation does not imply causation. It's a study and more needs to be done.

I agree with you but still I am commenting on the factual sentences that exist in the article and not their correctness. I'm sure you understood already.

Re: Cognitive deficits in people who have recovered from Covid-19

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Post by bamboozled » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 10:21 PM UTC

biolurker1 wrote: post #215

bamboozled wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes and the severity and the true cause of the symptoms is still not set in stone, so you're confused because correlation does not imply causation. It's a study and more needs to be done.

I agree with you but still I am commenting on the factual sentences that exist in the article and not their correctness. I'm sure you understood already.

So why then do you say that the top comment is wrong to be the top comment ?

My friend is an epidemiologist working for a leading international health organisation and told me the same thing yesterday.