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Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by pault »

munchbunny wrote: post #77
junon wrote: post #27

I had one of those TVs. The ads show up in the menu bar. I called them and told them I paid over a thousand dollars for this TV and do not want ads. They said they'd be happy to help me disable my internet connection. I was so dumbfounded at the petty response that I simply hung up. Lost a customer for life. I will never again buy a Samsung product.

This, and the built-in voice assistant, is why I have a blanket rule that the smart TV will never touch the internet. If I want to stream things, that can go through the gaming PC that's right next to the TV.

How do you handle streaming when all of the services refuse to stream 4K on any computer? I think Netflix does HD bit Hulu and HBO are like 720p. It's like watching a torrent from 2005.

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Post by beagle3 »

RealStickman_ wrote: post #172
beagle3 wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a temporary measure. Soon enough, they will have 5G or 6G modems inside, a special arrangement with carriers (a la Amazon’s whispernet), and You would have to wrap it in tinfoil to stop it from reporting on your viewing habits and showing you ads.

At that point maybe it would be lucrative for people handy with the soldering iron to remove those modems and resell the TV.

They would also need to to root the TV as well, as it will refuse to work without said modem being functional. This is a losing game, and it seems like the only recourse is regulatory.

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

centimeter wrote: post #199
overlordalex wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's reports of some models connecting to any open wifi networks, which would include your neighbours. And it's only a matter of time until they come with built-in sim cards

Recent model toyota vehicles come with a "telematics" unit with a built-in SIM card that sends GPS data, driving data, video from the front camera, etc. to Toyota and the "agreement" in the manual says they can do ~whatever they want with it. If you power down the telematics module (by removing the fuse), the carplay microphone doesn't work (because the microphone runs through the telematics module). If you remove or…

Thanks for sharing that. Is the SIM card removable like in mobile phones?

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Post by beagle3 »

Answerawake wrote: post #181
beagle3 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple TV does let you. You just have to reload them once a week, or factor an additional $100 into the price to only do that only once a year.

Is a there a good collection of Idevice apps somewhere that we can take and compile and use for this purpose? I am starting to go down the path of making my own simple versions of popular apps like Twitter or pulling the backend apis of other apps for stores all in an effort to remove as much tracking as I can while still keeping functionality. For example, there is a popular convenience store app that gives discount…

https://altstore.io/ is the best known. Google "alternative app stores for ios", there are many.

(Not an endorsement; Have not used any of them myself).

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Post by petepete »

One of their execs states "delivering high quality products that put users at the heart of everything we do" in their LinkedIn summary.

He doesn't seem to specify who his users are but he's clearly thinking about advertisers rather than customers, who he's treating like shit.

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Post by xenadu02 »

beagle3 wrote: post #137
buro9 wrote: post #72

If you don't like this: 1) Buy an Nvidia Shield, Google Chromecast, or Apple TV 2) Connect that to your TV 3) Factory reset your TV and never connect it to the internet again

This is a temporary measure. Soon enough, they will have 5G or 6G modems inside, a special arrangement with carriers (a la Amazon’s whispernet), and You would have to wrap it in tinfoil to stop it from reporting on your viewing habits and showing you ads.

IIRC don't Samsung TVs already connect to any open access point they can find in an attempt to upload analytics, or was that Vizio? I definitely remember someone was doing that, meaning not connecting to the network only worked if there were no open APs around.

I'm sure soon enough the TVs will refuse to boot unless connected to the internet.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by petepete »

junon wrote: post #27

I had one of those TVs. The ads show up in the menu bar. I called them and told them I paid over a thousand dollars for this TV and do not want ads. They said they'd be happy to help me disable my internet connection. I was so dumbfounded at the petty response that I simply hung up. Lost a customer for life. I will never again buy a Samsung product.

I wrote this guide a few years ago, hopefully you'll find it useful. These days a Pi-Hole will do the trick.

https://gist.github.com/peteryates/b44b70d19ccd52f62d66cdd4b...

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Post by morrbo »

troydavis wrote: post #125
JaimeThompson wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does an external Roku device collect ACR based data?

You'll see highly targeted ads on all Roku devices -- like based on what you search for and which show/movie listings you view. However, AFAIK ACR is only on when Roku the TV OS. AFAIK, for ACR, it's on when Roku is the TV OS but off when Roku is a standalone device. They don't make that totally clear, though, so you should check the device. That said, even for standalone devices, there's plenty of other data to targ…

I remembered reading this a while ago:

" xcgfhgjbjhb on Sept 19, 2019 [–]

I worked on that. It sends audio and/or video fingerprints (not frames, for privacy and bandwidth reasons), which are matched against a fingerprint database. Whatever people see on TV is usually 10 to 60 seconds behind the real live stream at the broadcaster (which is where the reference fingerprinting happens). GeoIP data can be used to roughly deduce where the TV is located, in order to better filter out false positives out of multiple matches (e.g. in the US where lots of programming on east/west side is just shifted by ~3 hours due to time difference)."

From this thread - if you find it interesting https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21002745

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by 0rjf83 »

mattnewton wrote: post #21
namanaggarwal wrote: post #15

Made a mental note to buy only the dumb tv. If I want streaming options I would rather setup my own. Or for non-tech I would recommend dumb tv + apple tv or Chromecast

It’s getting harder and harder to. I ended up buying a projector and a screen, large TVs are pretty much all infected with this kind of “smart os” and I don’t want a tv constantly asking to be connected to the internet so it can download adware.

The term you're looking for is "Commercial Signage" or "Large-Format Displays" [1] This is of course US based but there are other vendors for North America, and I'm sure for EuroAsia and beyond.

You're paying more for the fact that some models are built to last longer, and the fact there's no wireless or smart junk.

[1] https://www.cdw.com/search/Monitors-Projectors/Large-Format-...

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