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Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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Re: Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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Interesting. Does the Indian government have a legitimate complaint? There is a very wide spectrum of possibilities here. They range from the Indian government being horrible, through localised corruption, through the government having very legitimate concerns about foreign interference, through to AI India being corrupt and/or in league with western intelligence agencies.

It's not a question of legitimate complaint. They didn't complain, they froze assets and halted the organisation's activity. The question is whether or not the Indian government's actions are legitimate, and whether or not their stated reasons are true. On the later, it seems to be a clear no.

The government didn't wake-up overnight to freeze NGO's assets.

Many NGOs were NOT filing annual reports that they were supposed to be filing, and their compliance(even pre-2014 norms) were not ensured by the govt.

UPA have used these NGOs to instigate protests in various state governments as Congress lacked strong real regional political activities and lack grass-root touch with people.

It was visible with the strong presence of NGO activists in the unconstitutional body of National Advisory Council.

Even after modification of norms, these NGOs were given sufficient notice and warning to file their reports.

On failure to which govt took drastic measure.

Re: Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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I made this video on CHAZ: https://battlepenguin.video/videos/watch/9f81cd38-3ee9-4f26-... Here are some of the rioters in Portland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zthJUf31MA Here are some peaceful protestors trying to break into a Federal Courthouse in Portland using a circular saw: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1286915433828724736 Portland rioters were also disguising themselves as press: https://twitter.c…

I'm not saying there weren't riots/rioters/looters. But you said that the media was misrepresenting cases of this as peaceful protests and I said I haven't seen anything like that. The links you posted are mostly them being called rioters (and one super-cut of something that's not a protest or a riot).

You have got to be kidding me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nTyCiZFztw

Re: Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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According to AlJazeera, Afzal Guru is just a "Kashmiri separatist". I guess they missed the part where he was convicted for attacking the Indian parliament [1]. Interesting that Amnesty International questioned the way he was tried and punished[2]. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Indian_Parliament_attack 2. https://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/india-ne...

But Afzal was hanged when India was ruled by Congress. And all parties including Far left supported it. So that case cannot be used to measure judiciary sleeping with present government.

My comment did not talk about the judiciary. It was more about just calling Afzal Guru a separatist.

I don't think the judiciary is sleeping with the government. In recent times, they have given verdicts like the decriminalization of homosexual relationships and abolishing of Triple Talaq. I do agree that they should be more proactive. One reason for them being a bit soft on the government is that the current government has stuff like NJAC in their arsenal, which threatens to dilute the power of the judiciary. While NJAC was declared unconstitutional by the SC some years back, the current leadership can still bring it back by mobilizing support for it.

Re: Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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Ironic given that Donald Trumps grandfather was an immigrant - and German immigrants where subject to discrimination.

How is that ironic?

Nativists campaigned against incomers from Europe

Re: Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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Ironic given that Donald Trumps grandfather was an immigrant - and German immigrants where subject to discrimination.

Rich immigrants and poor immigrants are seen often as totally different categories.

Don't think Initially Donald's granddad was that rich.

And to follow up German immigrants where not liked as the liked their beer and some where gasp Catholic

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How is that ironic?

Nativists campaigned against incomers from Europe

So basically you never become a native regardless how many generations you stay in a country, thus nationalism is valid point of view.

Re: Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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Its pretty much evident from woke publications of western media

Ok. Got any examples of woke western publications expressing the opinion that Hindus/idol-worshippers are "beastly and low-life"?

https://qz.com/india/948392/why-did-winston-churchill-hate-t...

http://ramachandraguha.in/archives/%E2%80%98a-beastly-people...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Winston_Church...

Re: Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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I am very glad foreign funded vested interest groups working as NGOs like Amnesty International is leaving India for good. NGOs like Amnesty and Greenpeace has been involved in shady work in many places in India, including religious conversion and paid protests in remote villages. Hindus being a global minority need to be cautious and are worried about such conversion activities. Indian govt has been asking NGOs to c…

I dont see any rebuttal

Re: Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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In your provided link it points to Sweden as one of the best prepared countries for COVID. I am Swedish citizen. I am actually quiet surprised since it is still hard to get tested and test results take longer than two days (mine was a week but it was private and two months ago). Sweden in general is handling it well, but it would take a long time to understand who handled covid better.

The point is not about covid per se. The point is veracity of the institution that are cited all over the globe and orgs like amnesty. These are created, based and are funded by western govts and people -- their point of view is already biased and often times willfully. To highlight the point I used pandemic preparedness. Some one in his/her infinite wisdom comes up with an index with 10 parameters and then publishes…

I noticed that you seem to attack the sources of a lot of things you disagree with as biased.

I don't think that is obviously true, but in any case your arguments maybe better received if you explained why their claims are wrong.

I'd note that you used the same approach downthread, until it turned out the author himself was Indian and extremely well qualified to make the points he made.

Re: Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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I assume you are probably an NRI. This is well know to natives. Most of the BJP leaders are former RSS members including modi. Source https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-29593336 RSS ideology is to make india a hindu religous state. Hinduism is based on the vedic books which advocate varna system.

Amazing to see an authentic source like the BBC! It is the same publication that cannot complete any ISRO/Science related article without highlighting first how poor india is! So, if your source about RSS is BBC then good luck about having a non-biased conversation. You are part of the cliched narrative builders.

Here's an Indian source for the fact that Modi was a RSS member. I'm not aware that is seriously disputed anyway?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/trend...

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