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Hotel guest in Thailand jailed for defamation after posting bad online reviews

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Re: Hotel guest in Thailand jailed for defamation after posting bad online reviews

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What happened? I’m convinced my girlfriend almost got abducted at the airport by w fake cab.

In Bangkok it was mainly tuk-tuks taking me to places I didn't want to go and many attempted scams (magicians, dealers in jewels, someone pretending to be police). In Chiangmai I had my worst couchsurfing experience, really unpleasant guy who I went to town with and was dependent on (he took me half an hour or so on the back of his motorcycle) and who got really drunk after I asked him to please stop drinking (becaus…

Honest question.. why do you go to countries like these ? To me it looks like the risk is not worth at all.. Is being in danger part of the attraction or people really underestimate the dangers of third world countries ?

Re: Hotel guest in Thailand jailed for defamation after posting bad online reviews

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I have traveled to Thailand several times, and once the taxi driver put drugs on my luggage. He was crony with the guard at the airport who was very surprised when he could not find the small cocaine bags the driver has put there(and I had thrown away). In Thailand they take drugs super seriously and they can blackmail you easily this way. On the other hand you see all kind of scumbags from western countries travelin…

Wait what?! I’ve got so many questions. How exactly does a Taxi driver coordinate with guards? At what point did you discover the scheme? You were nearly blackmailed and just threw away the evidence? How does the Airport guard blackmail you? How goes he expect to get paid? Why go through this and not just blackmail the actual legitimate drug users?

Are you honestly legitimately surprised?

All this is very common in third world countries. We continually prey upon each other in the best of times and heaven help any sheltered foreigner who happens to walk around with their guard down.

Re: Hotel guest in Thailand jailed for defamation after posting bad online reviews

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It goes both ways... I had similar experiences in Thailand, but I also saw a lot of terrible behaviour from tourists - trashing rooms, causing disturbances late at night, trying to trick/scam or just nickle-and-dime the locals . Thailand seems to attract a particularly hard-partying demographic from Australia, UK and Germany in particular that gives other tourists a bad reputation - who are then treated with a lot of…

There does seem to be an attitude, especially among the "lifestyle business" crowd, that SEA exists for Westerners to live like kings, with it borderlining on a masters/servants mentality.

That is true as well, particularly when it comes to Western pick-up artists perpetuating the image of "Asian" girls as "easy" and desperate for any White men, who then flock to those places in hopes of scoring what they can't do so easily back home.

Re: Hotel guest in Thailand jailed for defamation after posting bad online reviews

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I'm reading many negative experiences of Thailand here, which saddens me. I've been there multiple times, it's a beautiful country that I enjoy very much. There's definitely problems with lousy tourists going there to purchase sex, but aside from that it's a very nice place and I haven't had any issues.

This isn't strictly related to the story, but I just wanted to add some alternative point of view to this thread.

Caveat: I've traveled to many "less developed" countries so I might be more street-conscious than the average traveller.

Re: Hotel guest in Thailand jailed for defamation after posting bad online reviews

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Wait what?! I’ve got so many questions. How exactly does a Taxi driver coordinate with guards? At what point did you discover the scheme? You were nearly blackmailed and just threw away the evidence? How does the Airport guard blackmail you? How goes he expect to get paid? Why go through this and not just blackmail the actual legitimate drug users?

Here's a possible scenario based on the OPs story. Two brothers - one works as a taxi driver, the other as an airport guard. The taxi brother inserts small packs of cocaine in the bags of his passengers. Then texts his airport guard brother a description of the passenger and bag he inserted the drug in. The passenger arrives at the security check and his bag gets pulled out. The airport guard finds the drugs and puts…

And now you end up with "attempted bribery" charges on top, that may actually stick even if you can prove the cocaine story.

Re: Hotel guest in Thailand jailed for defamation after posting bad online reviews

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You know, treating tourists poorly has very far reaching consequences for Thailand. Before this commotion poeple would possibly only avoid that one particular resort, now people are talking about never visiting Thailand in the future after what has happened to the guy.

Re: Hotel guest in Thailand jailed for defamation after posting bad online reviews

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post #201

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Here's a possible scenario based on the OPs story. Two brothers - one works as a taxi driver, the other as an airport guard. The taxi brother inserts small packs of cocaine in the bags of his passengers. Then texts his airport guard brother a description of the passenger and bag he inserted the drug in. The passenger arrives at the security check and his bag gets pulled out. The airport guard finds the drugs and puts…

A similar thing happens in the Philippines, but with gun ammunition instead of drugs. Yes, having a single loose ammo in your luggage at the airport can land you in jail. It got so bad that passengers would wrap their entire luggage with duct tape or cellophane to make sure the guards at the airport won't sneak one in. In fact, airports actually have cellophane dispensers so passengers can wrap them at the airport in…

I've traveled a lot in the past 6 years, living abroad. Absolutely, wrap your bag if you can. Just watch what the locals are doing. If the majority are doing this, do the same.

Re: Hotel guest in Thailand jailed for defamation after posting bad online reviews

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I have traveled to Thailand several times, and once the taxi driver put drugs on my luggage. He was crony with the guard at the airport who was very surprised when he could not find the small cocaine bags the driver has put there(and I had thrown away). In Thailand they take drugs super seriously and they can blackmail you easily this way. On the other hand you see all kind of scumbags from western countries travelin…

How did you find the bag?

Re: Hotel guest in Thailand jailed for defamation after posting bad online reviews

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I have traveled to Thailand several times, and once the taxi driver put drugs on my luggage. He was crony with the guard at the airport who was very surprised when he could not find the small cocaine bags the driver has put there(and I had thrown away). In Thailand they take drugs super seriously and they can blackmail you easily this way. On the other hand you see all kind of scumbags from western countries travelin…

> Without more data, I bet this is the second case. If the online reviews are false the Hotel is in their right to accuse him of defamation.

On the one hand, I think it is morally wrong for defamation to be a criminal offense.

But on the other hand ... don't go to thailand unless you are okay with their laws, same as any other country.

Re: Hotel guest in Thailand jailed for defamation after posting bad online reviews

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Wait what?! I’ve got so many questions. How exactly does a Taxi driver coordinate with guards? At what point did you discover the scheme? You were nearly blackmailed and just threw away the evidence? How does the Airport guard blackmail you? How goes he expect to get paid? Why go through this and not just blackmail the actual legitimate drug users?

Are you honestly legitimately surprised? All this is very common in third world countries. We continually prey upon each other in the best of times and heaven help any sheltered foreigner who happens to walk around with their guard down.

The first time I encountered this I was legitimately surprised. I have since accepted it as "a thing that just is" when traveling, but I suspect the same is true for united893: they are lucky enough to have never needed to think through this kind of scenario until now.
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