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Huawei 5G kit must be removed from UK by 2027

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Re: Huawei 5G kit must be removed from UK by 2027

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Post by throwawaybab323 »

jaekash wrote: post #196
throwawaybab323 wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US condemned BDS by the way. Look it up.

I assume you are referring to the Democrat controlled US House passing a resolution with bipartisan support and a 398-17 vote which condemns BDS[1]. BDS is still allowed to operate and the condemnation has no state-actionable consequences against BDS. And there are members of the US congress who openly support BDS. [1]: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/23/us/politics/house-israel-...

No, actually I'm referring to almost every piece of legislature in each of the us states. In which the first to ratify the sanctions being Tennessee a republican state. http://jewishobservernashville.org/2015/04/22/tennessee-legi...

But I assume all you did was a quick google search to confirm your bias.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/anti-bds-legislation

Hmm, It seems the majority of the states to ratify resolutions have been overwhelmingly republican.

It seems as if. Everyone in the us who does not support the bds movement.

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Post by gruez »

Waterfall wrote: post #207
gruez wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its the difference between knowing which neighborhood you're in and which street or mabye even which house you're in.

But you can already tell what house you're in with triangulation, and even the room.

Source on this? Maybe you can do it if it's combined with wifi/bluetooth signals, but I doubt you can do it with cell towers alone.

Re: Huawei 5G kit must be removed from UK by 2027

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Post by oliwarner »

This makes me nervous.

If the last few years mismanagement of Brexit, privatising the NHS, "universal" credit, historic immigration renegs, the perpetually delayed reaction to Covid19, PPE procurement contracts going to zero-asset companies monetarily linked to Tory members and donors...

Well... A large part of me hopes it's mere incompetence.

But the bigger picture seems to be a party that —starting with May as Home Secretary— has been pushing harder and harder at knowing everything about everybody. Kicking out incumbent foreign hardware providers seems like a bloody good way to plant your own hardware in its place and achieve another level of control.

Re: Huawei 5G kit must be removed from UK by 2027

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Post by londons_explore »

nradov wrote: post #185
londons_explore wrote: post #170

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The cost of that victory, according to the BBC, is a 1 year delay in the rollout of 5G tech. That's a pretty large economic cost. Bob can't watch his medical lectures on the train, so ends up behind in class, Mary's company looses a contract to a foreign competitor because she got frustrated with her bad VPN and didn't read over the bid one last time, Fred couldn't afford the cost of the new 5G contracts so didn't ge…

Existing 4G LTE connections work well enough for those use cases you listed; users will hardly notice any difference on 5G. The real benefit of 5G will be in the new types of applications it enables.

Today... But when webpages become 50 MB each on average, you're going to be waiting a long time for them to load over LTE...

Those 'new applications' will be old applications with a few thousand more JavaScript libraries bundled with every page load...

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Post by eggsnbacon1 »

geogra4 wrote: post #117
eggsnbacon1 wrote: post #53

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There is no evidence of this. Please cite a source that is not Adrian Zenz

If you think Adrian Zenz is some kind of fraud there's nothing I can post that will convince you so sources are pointless. Google "China re-education camps" and you'll find hundreds of articles on the subject from news organizations all of the world

Re: Huawei 5G kit must be removed from UK by 2027

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Post by jaekash »

throwawaybab323 wrote: post #211
jaekash wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume you are referring to the Democrat controlled US House passing a resolution with bipartisan support and a 398-17 vote which condemns BDS[1]. BDS is still allowed to operate and the condemnation has no state-actionable consequences against BDS. And there are members of the US congress who openly support BDS. [1]: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/23/us/politics/house-israel-...

No, actually I'm referring to almost every piece of legislature in each of the us states. In which the first to ratify the sanctions being Tennessee a republican state. http://jewishobservernashville.org/2015/04/22/tennessee-legi... But I assume all you did was a quick google search to confirm your bias. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/anti-bds-legislation Hmm, It seems the majority of the states to ratify resol…

> No, actually I'm referring to almost every piece of legislature in each of the us states. In which the first to ratify the sanctions being Tennessee a republican state. http://jewishobservernashville.org/2015/04/22/tennessee-legi....

Individual US states is not the same as the "The US". And what you are linking to is not sanctions and again has no state-actionable consequences against BDS that I can see. It is a condemnation.

> It seems as if. Everyone in the us who does not support the bds movement.

Good they have some sense, even so BDS is still allowed to operate in the US. How will BDS ever survive now that it has been made clear that nobody likes them, while they are still allowed to operate. I mean they are entitled to everybody's support no?

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Post by Waterfall »

gruez wrote: post #212
Waterfall wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you can already tell what house you're in with triangulation, and even the room.

Source on this? Maybe you can do it if it's combined with wifi/bluetooth signals, but I doubt you can do it with cell towers alone.

Yes you can. I used a jailbreak app on ios6 and I used llama on Android for this.

>The average for Boston is 21 meters; New York 27 meters; Austin, TX, 28 meters; Washington 29 meters, and Chicago 38 meters.

https://www.mobilemarketer.com/ex/mobilemarketer/cms/news/re...

I got my own room in my house with it, back in the 3G/4G days. I'm not sure what modern software and hardware can do it now, but I'm pretty sure it's even more accurate even without 5G.

Re: Huawei 5G kit must be removed from UK by 2027

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

All providers had their infamy moment at some point, leaving a backdoor behind.

Maybe for spying, maybe because QA failed.

Huawei is on the US radar but somehow when Cisco left a backdoor on some routers it was "just a mistake".

Every country is guilty of stabbing in the back others (occasionally or all the time), it has been the case for centuries and is not likely to change.

I am French, we do not have our own tech so we get stuff from everyone around - we are probably in the worst spot from that perspective.

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Post by cptskippy »

Waterfall wrote: post #209
cptskippy wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US government is stagnated by politics and the current political culture focuses on screwing over the opposing party above all else. On the surface it seems like the grumpy old men in charge are just being stubborn and exercising their power to ensure their opponents lose, but if you look at the legislation that does get passed you start to see something very different. Most of the legislation passed revolves aro…

I don't think it's that cut and dry. If people are being oppressed, why don't they leave? The innovations and benefits must outweigh the problems. I'm happy to be a US citizen, with excellent buying power. What product is worst and more expensive that you have in mind?

> If people are being oppressed, why don't they leave?

It's not that easy. Assuming they can afford to leave, most cannot, the fact that they've lived their entire lives here and their whole support system resides here makes it hard. Many people aren't upwardly mobile, and things aren't bad enough to make them desperate.

> What product is worst and more expensive that you have in mind?

Privatized utilities. The pitch in the 90s was that you'd have a bunch of providers competing to offer lower rates and the result would be lower prices. The reality is that you pay a very high base fee (no longer subsidized in the rate), and then you pay a service fee to your provider. Most rates are promotional so once a year you shop around or call up your gas provider to negotiate like you would your ISP. Switching providers usually results in activation fees and other costs.

This works great for large consumers (e.g. factories, businesses) who pay lower overall rates but the poor suffer. An example, I used $1.76 in natural gas last month but my bill was $36. I paid more in taxes ($2.04) than I paid for the gas. People in my state pay $32 a month in fees for the privilege of being able to pay for gas. That's on top of the deposit people with poor credit have to put down.

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