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even my bank app won’t open (Nubank)
What the hell does Nubank need the Facebook SDK for?
tracking!!!
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The android/iPhone thing isn’t on purpose, it’s an artifact of the organizational structure at WhatsApp
What makes you sure it's not on purpose? I don't disagree, I'm just curious about your statement.
Why would WhatsApp want to make it hard to stay on their platform?
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#213That is now the how manyth time this happened?
Like wtf. they have so many resources how is it possible that even with that they can't make their sdk error resilient.
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#214Waze, a google owned app for the past 4 years, crashes because of the FB app. WhatsApp, a Facebook owned app, will not give you read access to your own chat database - it’s encrypted. But they have an arrangement with Google where it’s will back up unencrypted to your Google account (though, Google won’t let you retrieve it ... only the WhatsApp app can) Everything about this duopoly, their cooperation and lack of co…
While I definitely disagree with the way drive doesn't give access to users for their own data, I think giving access has it's own problems, as you might land in another Cambridge analytica type situation. 1. Shady addictive game requires full access to drive. 2. Shady game downloads all your chats with all contacts 3. FB is on fire since they allowed access to people's chats with others, even those who didn't downlo…
The same list you gave already applies to data already readable on Google Drive - most people have data that can be used against them on those drives. Also, many apps ask for (And get) permission to read contacts and messages on your phone.
Claiming that this is the reason is sort of like rearranging the chairs on the deck of the titanic when you can see the iceberg.
Much more likely it is to stop import/export to a competing app. The fact they will let you keep a local encrypted copy, but not an unencrypted one under any circumstances, is telling.
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Also, you can't migrate WhatsApp between iPhone and Android. There's a utility called BackupTrans, which follows an extremely convoluted process including a step where they install an old version of WhatsApp. It seemed to work but it trips some wire and WhatsApp put me in an hour-long timeout state, twice. Since I very much depend on WhatsApp, I dare not use it anymore.
The platform lock-in because of this is immense.
Maybe so, but it doesn't benefit either platform.
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#216Seems like it's been fixed just now. All apps are working again.
Yes, Spotify appears to have been hotfixed at least. Was 100% crashing for me earlier this morning. Working fine now.
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Not only could it do that, but it also totally does do that
The fact that we as in industry and we as citizens of free nations do not end these operations, terminate their corporate charters and throw the responsible in jail is indicator #1 that freedom (not the GOP free-dumb) as we know it is in it's death rattle.
So yes the definition of “freedom” is “give the government more power over both app developers who voluntarily integrate the SDK and users who voluntarily download the app”.
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Yes, it's definitely time for some slightly enhanced armchair activism! Convert all active whatsapp contacts to signal? 80%? 50%? Same for Facebook messenger! It needs to be uncomfortable enough - if they want to communicate with us and are minimally tech savvy ("click link to install app") they have to switch to signal . That's it. I'm starting to send out messages over my morning coffee. Let's do this together: htt…
I’d rather keep using messenger than switch to signal. Nothing that requires my phone number, and even worse, uses it as primary identifier, is something I want to switch to (and no, obviously I don’t use Whatsapp either). I realize that in this mobile-centric world that makes me a grumpy old man, but for me, my E-Mail is the important ID.
I switched phone numbers a few years back and I can't use Uber because my account is tied to my old phone number and the new phone number already had an Uber account. It's so dumb.
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#219Stop using facebook's garbage!
Or if you must, use their oauth flow and API but _don't_ include code of theirs you don't control directly in your binary. It's just asking for trouble.
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Indeed, and if the FB SDK (as used by the Spotify app among others) does in fact call home, it might violate Apple's TOS and give rise to rejecting those apps on the App Store. I'm not up to date with Apple's policies, but wasn't Apple specifically rejecting apps that seek to establish a platform within Apple's platform? Now if Apple are going to play hardball on this one is another question alltogether.
It's a money game and Apple could totally crack down it, but they won't. They may long term but they take cowardly slow steps like everyone else does.
So exactly how much money does Apple make from free apps?
If Apple wanted to make money , it should make it harder for advertising supported apps to make money and force apps to either not exist or get people to pay for them.
I would be okay with that.