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Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by zozbot234 »

boxfire wrote: post #157
hombre_fatal wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexual The second paragraph has four sources that cite some transexuals rejecting the label of transgender, so language-policing others based on your personal preferences is quite inappropriate here.

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That page correctly notes that 'transsexual' "originates in the medical and psychological communities", much like Wiki itself does. While 'transgender' may be naturally broader, there's nothing hateful whatsoever about using that term; it's quite well-established.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by SuperFerret »

cwhiz wrote: post #111

I don't think Reddit should be able to censor lawful content and also claim protections under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. If they want to police lawful content that is fine but then they are no longer an open platform and they should forfeit their Section 230 protections. I dislike the ability for online platforms to have their cake of protection against lawsuits and also eat their cake of policing…

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Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by Miner49er »

cthalupa wrote: post #185
marricks wrote: post #89

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I don't follow them enough to personally have an opinion on if they warranted that treatment or not, but did follow enough to know it really couldn't have been most posts. So really can't argue with you on the validity of the banning. but... that if the fraction of bad posts lead to mass suspensions on CTH then I'd say it is a creepy/not-good direction for Reddit.

I pulled the fractions out of thin air, so I have no idea what they actually are. But you have to do something about people refusing to enforce site policy, even if it's only on a small portion of the content. For an extreme example (and to be clear I am not saying anything like this happened at CTH), if 99 posts out of 100 on subreddit fall within the rules, but that 1 post that doesn't is promoting killing everyone…

The thing with reddit's rules is they aren't applied in a consistent way. You can go to /r/justiceserved (which is basically a violence porn sub) and talk about violence all you want. Look at https://www.reddit.com/r/JusticeServed/comments/hdvsy2/dayli... as an example, look at the people there that are saying they think it's a good thing that a guy was shot (and killed) for attempted robbery. This was the top post on /r/rising for that sub when I made this comment.

You can go to /r/politics and say that we should go to war with Iran, or say that it would be great if Putin died and be fine.

/r/chapotraphouse has probably the same amount of calls for (or glorification of) violence as /r/politics (and less then /r/justiceserved), but for some reason reddit has it out for them. Also, how is /r/cth supposed to fix their rulebreaking if the admins aren't very clear on what content is breaking the rules?

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by tenebrisalietum »

klodolph wrote: post #110
torben-friis wrote: post #22

I don't really get reddit's efforts to clean their site. They sometimes come up with measures like this, while routinely ignoring the development of horrible communities that they're aware of (since some users take any possible opportunity to mention them to the admins and are met with silence or half measures). They even came up with the concept of quarantined subreddits. I honestly can't think of a single honest re…

My take on quarantined subreddits is that it’s just a tool to remove certain communities from the mobile app so they don’t get in trouble with Apple / Google (mostly Apple, I’m sure).

I think there's something to this, because on at least the iOS app, a quarantined subreddit basically looks like it doesn't exist at all, on the phone app.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by rabuse »

s9w wrote: post #189
fwip wrote: post #119

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"Many people enjoy being racist" is a weird hill to die on.

That's a difficult discussion. These sites offer so much more than what they're always reduced to. I would even argue that they're sometimes nicer places than Reddit or hn. And even with those icky subjects they're not always as black or white as they're portrayed. Even if you don't believe that they're right about them, they're evidently more open to their debate.

Exactly. I honestly enjoy 4chan for a multitude of reasons, and have had many quality discussions on the site over the past many years. There's always garbage to sift through, but I like the "free" nature of those types of platforms.

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Post by jlawson »

bradlys wrote: post #59
psychometry wrote: post #38

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The point is that the users who are upvoting this kind of content will stay on the site if they think their votes matter. Reddit clearly would rather they leave entirely, and this is a good way to encourage racists/misogynists/incels/whoever to find another platform.

It happens for far left content as well. I don’t think it’s limited to hateful content. At least, that’s what I’ve read from the chapotraphouse subreddit. Example being upvoting some far left stuff in r/politics.

'Far-left content' and 'hateful content' are not mutually exclusive. Quite the opposite, really.

It is amazing how people will redefine hating Trump supporters, men, white people, "the 1%", western civilization etc as somehow 'not hateful'. "My hate isn't hate, I just dislike things that are bad." Right.

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Post by elicash »

luckylion wrote: post #202
elicash wrote: post #104

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Reddits values aren't the same as yours. This isn't a bad thing. It's not like Reddit has monopoly powers. Some people want to belong to communities that have agreed-upon values.

But the community would be a subreddit, not the site reddit.com, which is far too heterogeneous to be considered some kind of community.

You'd be surprised what percent of reddit visitors just browse popular or don't do specific subs outside the default. Most users aren't super users.

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Post by SauciestGNU »

manfredo wrote: post #2

Reddit admin message: > Your account has been suspended from for breaking the rules. Your account has been suspended for 3 day(s). >> You recently upvoted a post or comment that was determined to be against our policies. Abusive content is not acceptable on Reddit nor is engaging with it. Please be thoughful about the content that you interact with. Interestingly nothing in the Reddit policies seems to mention voting…

I got one of these warnings, and I've narrowed down what I engaged with to a Hard Times article. Strange times when reddit finds satire too spicy for their site.

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Post by mikeyouse »

deft wrote: post #54
tw04 wrote: post #12

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How so? Calling for someone to be murdered is understandably against their policy. As is doxxing someone. The user accounts that upvote the call for murder or upvote the doxxing details KNOW that the post is against their policy and decided to participate anyway. I hate how these conversations always devolve to "well they're just trying to control what everyone says!" as if it's black and white and not shades of gray…

Theres no upvoting on 4chan and bumping a thread (or on reddit upvoting) does not kill and cannot kill anyone. The people making the threads end up killing people (very rarely) not the randoms that reply (or upvote). You don't even know what the account upvoted, and upvoting isn't hate speech (or calling for someone to be murdered). Do you have a bunch of unknown information on this or are you just defending reddit's…

"Slide to dystopian horror"? For banning a bunch of garbage subs and the people that upvote the garbage? Hyperbolic much?

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Post by UhDev »

manfredo wrote: post #2

Reddit admin message: > Your account has been suspended from for breaking the rules. Your account has been suspended for 3 day(s). >> You recently upvoted a post or comment that was determined to be against our policies. Abusive content is not acceptable on Reddit nor is engaging with it. Please be thoughful about the content that you interact with. Interestingly nothing in the Reddit policies seems to mention voting…

You can make as many accounts as you want, no need to use an email address.
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