It will be interesting to track the frequency of Google walkouts while the economy has tanked, hiring has slowed to a crawl, and layoffs could be in the future.
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One has to think why the concept of employment is still considered like marriage that require such an extensive ultra-deep multi-level deliberations. Let's say you were local, why it shouldn't be possible to give someone on-the spot offer after half-day of interviews as well as let them go with, say 2 weeks of standard severance if things don't work out?
As much as our industry sucks at interviewing, it sucks at performance management even more. A congenial but mediocre developer can stick around forever in most places once they're in. This performance management weakness also makes me suspicious of various companies claiming to have nailed the interview process.
A congenial but mediocre developer may actually be more valuable than a rowdy and talented one because she pisses off less number of other brilliant developers.
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Exactly right. For example, many media organizations right now are reporting record traffic numbers, but are struggling to make ends meet as advertisers pull out.
Is there actually any numbers people can point towards? I’ve read similar comments over different forum postings about advertisers tending to cut advertising during times like these to help their financials. And it makes sense to me. But now I’m sitting here, just wondering if anyone has actually looked at numbers during other financial downturns. Or is it just some catching conversation that’s been kicking off....ma…
Even apart from the advertisement coming from the platform, most creators (podcast/Youtube) that I follow report that their direct ad placements have basically dropped to 0 and the only ones they have running now were negotiated pre-pandemic.
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#214I've also seen slow hiring and hiring freezes used by orgs to reduce head count by letting natural attrition take over. IMHO it is better than layoffs.
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The bullet of getting hired by a company with famously large margins and a huge pile of cash? I could think of worse places to be during this crisis.
Is it surprising that some people may value things other than just money? Of course there are people who would decide against an opportunity to go work for Google, FaceBook, Twitter, et al. I like to think there are more than a few, but I've no sources to backup any assertions right now.
How is that relevant in the least to someone who applied for a job there?
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#216How many jobs will go to India?
As third party observer, why this gets downvoted? I’m genuinely asking.
Because it's silly and ignorant and possibly xenophobic.
It probably doesn't help that elsewhere in the thread they're making comments that make them sound kind of crazy:
> [open source orgs are] communist organizations living on private money from anticompetitive tech giants.
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Call me dumb, but are people not sitting around consuming advertising 10x nowadays? There's never been a better time to get someone's attention.
Most Americans (richest country in the world btw) don't know how they will pay their rent next month or buy food. No one's signing up for a new subscription now lmao.
> Most Americans (richest country in the world btw) don't know how they will pay their rent next month or buy food. No one's signing up for a new subscription now lmao.
Precisely what part of anything in the preceding paragraph is meant to be modified or somehow accentuated by the "lmao?"
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#218Before everyone starts painting bleak picture, reminder: Facebook's Sandberg announced last week or so that they are going to do accelerated hiring spree this year, opening massive 10,000 more positions! Google as well as Facebook both depend on ads so I'm wondering why one is tightening the belt and other is moving full speed on expansion.
> Sandberg announced last week or so that they are going to do accelerated hiring spree That was a message to the stock market. In reality I haven't heard from a Facebook recruiter in a month now.
Heard from 2 recently so they're certainly still hiring and hiring fast
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Call me dumb, but are people not sitting around consuming advertising 10x nowadays? There's never been a better time to get someone's attention.
1. Demand has fallen off a cliff globally - this is far worse for companies than most realise, this has never happened before 2. All companies are facing a cash crunch, gov loans are slow to arrive and they have fixed costs like rent 3. Companies need to conserve cash, turning off ads is a click of a button, and given no demand, it's an obvious choice This is going to be bad for google and Facebook if it lasts any si…
On the other hand, Amazon is going gangbusters. I wonder if covid-19 will ironically prompt a longer term re-alignment away from virtual interaction in favour of real-world connections, as people realize how much they miss real things during lockdown.
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That sounds like... exactly the reality of such times, indeed. Well worded. There is a question, each time, of concurrent or even deeper cycles coinciding. The last recession is often thought to have been a prime factor in the revolutions of 2011 (Arab Spring etc). Regardless of their eventual conclusion, the push is deemed to stem (as always in history) from the economic situation. European kings knew all too well t…
>hitting the middle-upper class super hard What are you talking about? White collars are working from home, by and large. None of my engineer friends have lost their jobs yet (one is getting furloughed for a week though)
In contrast, in the Atlanta and Nashville focused tech slack teams I'm a part of almost every day I see more developers announcing they've been laid off. My last two employers have had massive layoffs that included developers.