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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by samstave »

_bxg1 wrote: post #131
jseliger wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A while ago I quit buying new models and switched to refurbished ones. The 7 I had did more or less what its predecessor did (car services, chat, remote camera control) and the one I have now (X or Xs?) does more or less what the 7 did. I can afford the newer ones, but I don't see the value relative to the four-figure cost.

When I got my XS ($1000) it was because I planned to keep it for a long time. It's been a year and a half and I have zero complaints of degradation in speed, battery life, etc. Still feels like new. I plan on keeping it for four years at least. Compare that to the $500 phones of the past that would limp across the two-year mark and it's really not unreasonable.

Im going on 5 years on my 6S+

Best iphone i have ever needed.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by tobtoh »

sn_master wrote: post #112

I use Pixel 4, and I absolutely hate not having a fingerprint sensor. Cons: * At night it doesn't work, because I am laying on the bed and half my face is covered. * It doesn't work when I am not wearing my glasses. Annoying when I have just woken up or going to bed and want to check a quick notification. * Sometimes it unlocks by itself even if I don't want it to. For the headphone jack, I got a cheap USB-C ones and…

> It doesn't work when I am not wearing my glasses

Are you holding the phone too close to your face?

I was getting frustrated that FaceID wouldn't work for me in bed when I wasn't wearing glasses, but I discovered it was because it was holding it so close to my face to read the screen (I'm very short sighted) and the camera couldn't focus (yes my eyesight is that bad haha).

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by pmlnr »

threepio wrote: post #133
threepio wrote: post #33

"Popular design"? On the contrary. As an iPhone SE owner, this is exactly the form factor that fans of the iPhone 4/5 series (like me) rejected as being too large.

The most perplexing part has always been the positioning of the SE as the low-price iPhone. As an SE fan, I would happily, HAPPILY pay $1000 every two years to keep getting upgraded internals in the current form factor. Yes Apple, I'm sure it's harder to fit those parts in a smaller case. That's why you should charge me more! It's not a matter of Ludditry. That form factor is ergonomically ideal for a certain kind of…

This. A lot of hardcore ThinPad users wanted the same with the X200 design. Never happened.

The original SE was the first iphone that made me think of switching, because of that form factor...

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by andrepd »

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones.

It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, but the only standard.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by Analemma_ »

asaddhamani wrote: post #196
ihuman wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It doesn't work when I am not wearing my glasses FaceID works with and without my glasses. I can't remember if it learned this automatically, or if I added it as an "alternative appearance." Does the Pixel 4 have any options like that?

FaceID is designed to work with or without glasses. > Face ID is designed to work with hats, scarves, glasses, contact lenses, and many sunglasses. Furthermore, it's designed to work indoors, outdoors, and even in total darkness. https://support.apple.com/en-in/HT208108

Although recently I have discovered that it doesn't work with face masks!

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by cko »

betaby wrote: post #163

Too large. Does anybody know a modern Android phone with the size of the IPhone 5?

The smallest one I've found that's usable is Sony Xperia XZ1 compact. It's a late 2017 phone. But it's around the same size.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by coldpie »

akvadrako wrote: post #209
coldpie wrote: post #161

Yes. I'm an Android user who is absolutely sick of phablets. I have a Pixel 3A (5.6") and it is way, way too big. I've been quite excited about this iPhone SE announcement. However, the lack of a headphone jack is a huge negative, and 4.7" is the absolute largest I think is reasonable. A little smaller would've been ideal. I'm undecided on whether to switch to the SE, but I genuinely hope it sells like crazy. Then ma…

It isn't about the screen size - it's about the external dimensions. This is almost as large as the Pixel 4A, Samsung S10e or iPhone 11. You are only saving a couple grams and a few mm. Hopefully the Sony Xperia 5 II comes out soon - it should be smaller than this.

Yes, I agree, this iPhone SE is too large. But it's at least a step in the right direction compared to where we've been heading.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by asiachick »

DangerousPie wrote: post #186
ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

FWIW I thought I would miss TouchID for a long time until I finally bought a new iPhone and realised that FaceID actually worked much better than I expected. Yes there are some occasions where it doesn't work well (when you're trying to unlock the phone without looking at it properly) but there are also many occasions where it works much better. Most of the time my phone now unlocks so smoothly that I don't even real…

How's it going with that face mask you're wearing? (of course I supposed you could be wearing gloves too in which case they both suck)

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by FriendlyNormie »

Why do the edges need to be round? Can this idiotic trend die already? It makes it easier for the phone to slide off of flat surfaces. It also makes it much harder to hold the phone with one hand since all the weight that concentrates on your pinky rests painfully on 2-3 millimeters of your skin rather than being spread across the full thickness of the phone. It also makes it easier for the phone to slip out of your hand if your pinky isn’t at just the right location and angle, the smooth curve means it just slides right off your pinky knuckle and onto the floor.

No one ever asked for this.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by DangerousPie »

nolok wrote: post #203
DangerousPie wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW I thought I would miss TouchID for a long time until I finally bought a new iPhone and realised that FaceID actually worked much better than I expected. Yes there are some occasions where it doesn't work well (when you're trying to unlock the phone without looking at it properly) but there are also many occasions where it works much better. Most of the time my phone now unlocks so smoothly that I don't even real…

I'm sure that's a huge help for people who like to check their notifications or other things on their phone while it's sitting on the desk without picking it up. There are tons of situation where your face is not in front of the phone yet you would still like to unlock it without contorting you or it, and how well face I'd work or not has nothing to do with it.

Yes, that's one of the occasions where I have noticed it not working well. I guess it just depends on how often you do that and how annoying you find it to have to lift the phone up a bit. Not a big deal for me.
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