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New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services

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shadowgovt wrote: post #198
dionidium wrote: post #138

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> But we are already inundated by outrage journalism, cancel culture, and public shaming. The last thing we need is more of that. The problem with "outrage culture" isn't the outrage; it's the target of the outrage. This is real stuff, consequential, non-trivial. It's good to be outraged when people behave outrageously. It's not so good when what you're trying to do is get a stranger fired for a tweet you could easil…

Ignoring tweets, it turns out, made the situation worse over time. As the Internet just becomes another part of the real world (down from the lofty "alternate universe" it was imagined it would be in the cyberpunk era), I'm 100% on board with people having real-world consequences for bad online behavior.

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Post by y-c-o-m-b »

carlosdp wrote: post #144
y-c-o-m-b wrote: post #95

At this point wouldn't it be better to just implement a Chinese-style martial law lock-down? The damage to the economy is already here. Might as well shut things down for 3-4 weeks and slowly open up sections of a city. That seems better to me then dragging this thing out for 3 months or longer. I feel like these "stages" of lock-down are doing nothing but delaying the inevitable which will cause more damage in the l…

I don't think authoritarian tactics like that, while effective, would fly in the US. I for one would not be ok with that. Once the government takes that authority once, who knows what they end up doing with it when they see they can get away with it.

I don't disagree, but we seem to be approaching that end in little stages anyway all the while extending the financial losses felt by households across the nation. I'm saying if we're heading to that outcome, might as well make it quick short and stern.

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Post by monadic2 »

munificent wrote: post #23
ilamont wrote: post #6

There is currently no plan in place to penalize individuals for gathering socially Then people won't take the rules seriously. Lots of people in this country still don't believe or understand how much damage this virus can inflict.

Man, I hate this take. I get where it's coming from. In times of significant stress, it's important that we all pull together and do work to benefit society as a whole. And part of the way we incentivize that is by calling out people who don't do their part. I get it. But we are already inundated by outrage journalism, cancel culture, and public shaming. The last thing we need is more of that. We've already got enoug…

> But we are already inundated by outrage journalism, cancel culture, and public shaming. The last thing we need is more of that.

Where does this fear mongering come from? I’m absolutely sick of people dropping this bullshit without anything to show people what they’re referring to. It’s certainly harmful to society and coordinating anything but the first attempted response.

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Post by tanilama »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #129

There is no doubt Cuomo should be the national point person for the response to the crisis based on his performance so far. He is independently working with regional manufacturing to retool to make critical medical PPE and ventilators, and has organized a regional coalition including CT, NJ, and PA. I have not agreed with him all the time, but his crisis management has been exemplary and he will have saved many lives…

Yeah, he seems to be on top of things, other than being dismissive at first, then drastic change course when meeting with criticism

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Post by IAmEveryone »

CydeWeys wrote: post #123
munificent wrote: post #23

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Man, I hate this take. I get where it's coming from. In times of significant stress, it's important that we all pull together and do work to benefit society as a whole. And part of the way we incentivize that is by calling out people who don't do their part. I get it. But we are already inundated by outrage journalism, cancel culture, and public shaming. The last thing we need is more of that. We've already got enoug…

What does "cancel culture" have to do with containment measures taken in response to a global pandemic?

OP seem to be saying it’s “rocking the boat”, i. e. he is pining for a nice and orderly world where people just get along.

And while he sees that it’s impossible to stop every single rapist, he’s willing to settle for victims just not bothering him with it.

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Post by Retric »

mentat wrote: post #162
nostromo wrote: post #89

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Yeah, they're boiling the frog. Each incremental step is normalized over a few days, and then there's a new, stricter mandate.

Except the virus is doubling over those days so completely ineffective.

Tests are a lagging indicator, the important factor is the R value. R1.5 is vastly better than R2 in the short term but pales beside R0.95. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_modelling_of_infe...

Both South Korea and China have successfully gotten below R1, but it’s unclear how long they can maintain that stance.

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Post by SN76477 »

tanilama wrote: post #216
throwaway5752 wrote: post #129

There is no doubt Cuomo should be the national point person for the response to the crisis based on his performance so far. He is independently working with regional manufacturing to retool to make critical medical PPE and ventilators, and has organized a regional coalition including CT, NJ, and PA. I have not agreed with him all the time, but his crisis management has been exemplary and he will have saved many lives…

Yeah, he seems to be on top of things, other than being dismissive at first, then drastic change course when meeting with criticism

I don't mind that someone was dismissive weeks ago. I know I was. Now, I have been inside for 5 days. I saw that it was turning serious.

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Post by TrumpMyGuns »

SN76477 wrote: post #219
tanilama wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, he seems to be on top of things, other than being dismissive at first, then drastic change course when meeting with criticism

I don't mind that someone was dismissive weeks ago. I know I was. Now, I have been inside for 5 days. I saw that it was turning serious.

Yet this is why people are crying about Trump, lmao!
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