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Seems like a power move to me. Painting a picture for the world of struggling U.S. institutions needing a Chinese billionaire's help to weather a crisis. I'm not even sure it's incorrect.
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If somebody helps me out of the potentially deadly hole, I do not give a flying feck about the motives. And that somebody can have all the good PR s/he wants from me as a token of appreciation.
The CPC are the ones who dug the deadly hole in the first place. It's great that one of their billionaire members has some money to spare to help people out, but let's not forget they are directly responsible for this pandemic.
It is very convenient blaming your adversaries/competitors for your own f..ups. We could've easily shut the borders at first sign and be protected and safe. Have somebody to blame for that hole?
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You put words in my mouth. My concern isn't that it's not "good quality". My concern is, the thing is literally coming from the country where the virus originated from to begin with. Presumably, these things were made with human hands, of people in China, .. the country where this all started. So, ... you're telling me, you're just going to blindly assume these products have ZERO trace of the virus without any verifi…
Right now, 99% of active cases are outside of China. If you're worried about shipments from China, you should be 100x as worried about shipments from Europe. Or, for that matter, a different state in the US. Another point: if you're also an Asian living in the United States, spending all day whipping up anti-Chinese sentiment online is not going to help you. If you succeed, you're going to be treated just as badly as…
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You put words in my mouth. My concern isn't that it's not "good quality". My concern is, the thing is literally coming from the country where the virus originated from to begin with. Presumably, these things were made with human hands, of people in China, .. the country where this all started. So, ... you're telling me, you're just going to blindly assume these products have ZERO trace of the virus without any verifi…
Pls read what's known about this virus survivability outside of hosts body before you assume that item touched by infected person is "tainted" forever.
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Right now, 99% of active cases are outside of China. If you're worried about shipments from China, you should be 100x as worried about shipments from Europe. Or, for that matter, a different state in the US. Another point: if you're also an Asian living in the United States, spending all day whipping up anti-Chinese sentiment online is not going to help you. If you succeed, you're going to be treated just as badly as…
Umm, I don't know how badly you're getting treated, but I haven't been so .. thanks for that "advice"?
Maybe you've had less experience with politicians. Maybe you look less Asian. Maybe you're just naive. I can't know which it is, but I'm sure they think the same of you as me.
Seems like a power move to me. Painting a picture for the world of struggling U.S. institutions needing a Chinese billionaire's help to weather a crisis. I'm not even sure it's incorrect.
Yeah China bad USA good. If anything China has done much more to contain the virus.
Like:
- censoring alarming posts in social networks for weeks
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/china-censored-cov...
- threatening medical staff with prosecution in case of warning other people on early stages of pandemic
https://qz.com/1798859/chinese-doctors-coronavirus-death-uni...
- flooding internet discussions with crowds of state trolls spreading disinformation
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/fee3ct/chinese_t...
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Umm, I don't know how badly you're getting treated, but I haven't been so .. thanks for that "advice"?
I've visited senators and representatives and they called me a threat to this country, to my face, knowing full well that I was a US citizen. Maybe you've had less experience with politicians. Maybe you look less Asian. Maybe you're just naive. I can't know which it is, but I'm sure they think the same of you as me.
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So if you notice, you literally defended someone's "cmmon man" argument as NOT a waste of everyone's time. How about you think about this, for a second, hmm? Studies as of now suggest that the virus can last for 3 days on a surface. So if you ship fly them over here from China, say a half a day flight, you have a good 2.5 days to potentially accidentally infect people. Are you going to "cmmon man" me now?
No, at this point you get a "relax, Nancy". No step in the process of manufacturing surgical masks involves anyone breathing on a mask; they have machines. Masks are never shipped by air; they're too bulky. Even items that are shipped by air take several days on the ground to be shipped from factories and to end users. Your innate fear of Chinese people has sent you off the deep end.
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It's still a power move. Just a global one. I have no doubt his intention really is to save lives, but a secondary motive is surely also PR. Perhaps the Chinese state had some role in this, as well. I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but I could see a possible benign conspiracy like them using Jack as a proxy to distribute these. If they did it officially, it could be trusted less and the motive would seem more b…
That's such amazingly american way of thinking. Like straight from cold war.
Of course it's PR. It's always PR, probably regardless of what superpower's government is involved. The only difference here is that the Chinese government has more control over and knowledge of what private citizens are doing, so it can be difficult to disentangle private and governmental action.