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ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

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Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

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I also have a t480, mines running Ubuntu but unfortunately I’m giving it up for a new MacBook Air. The touchpads on the thinkpads are beyond horrible after using macs for many years, it’s finally too annoying for me to keep going :(

The 16 Pro has a much less butterflyish keyboard.

But, then, the newer T490's can have up to 64 gigs of RAM, SATA and an M2 ssd

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

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Linux it is, then.

Linux desktop is great in 2020, especially if you buy the right hardware with solid support, the experience is totally smooth and super-high performance with stuff like ArchLinux. Boots up immediatley, no annoying MacOS updates or having to install XCode while having multiple versions of core unix packages, because it pre-installs a bunch of out-of-date ones you replace immediately with brew. This causes problems, es…

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Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

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The T480s has so much better build quality. Its all metal vs T480 which is plasticity and soft touch. Not sure why you would choose T480 unless you REALLY need > 24gb ram or giant extended battery. Even the inside is better built. The plastic front clips of the T480 backplate break super easily, whereas the T480s has replaceable clips.

Personally I much prefer plastic on my laptops. Less likely to bend and doesn't pass current and heat to my hands.

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

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Most of them use Macs and work on FreeBSD in a VM (I'm not kidding)

It'd be really interesting to know the proportion of Linux users who are now running under a VM for their desktop Linux use. I have Linux on the three machines I use. But on each it's via a VM. I run Windows and MacOS on the machines. Where I work this is common as well. It's surely pretty prevalent. The other way a lot of people work on Linux where I work is on a VM on AWS.

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Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

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> It lacks 802.11ac. Why in the world would it lack support for one of the most ubiquitous, not to mention fastest, wireless standards? I mean, it’s been out since 2013.

Speaking from memory as it's a little difficult to search for but there's no fully FOSS ac driver available for Linux which might be why the BSDs have none, Linux has open source ac drivers of course but they still require proprietary firmware blobs and the performance is terrible compared to the proprietary drivers (think 350Mb/s with OpenWrt compared to 800Mb/s on stock router firmware). Atheros released fully open…

FOSS driver and open firmware are separate issues.

Binary drivers executing on the CPU are a no-go for me. OTOH, I consider device firmware blobs user(OS)-loaded on power-on to be strictly safer than a stored blob, though less convenient in some ways.

Devices these days have firmware, usually on flash-able storage, as they don't make it right the first time. Would you rather have a wifi chipset, that can be permanently infected after an exploit / evil-maid / malware on PC, or one that can equally be exploited, but is as clean as ever after a power cycle, because the OS needs to load firmware every time?

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

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> ...mainstream OSes? Look how far we've come. Linux was the alternative OS just ~15 years ago. Now it's one of the mainstream OSes . TBH, I'd like to see one of the BSDs to become one of the mainstream OSes too. :) edit: Except macOS ofc. :)

"Stardate 2020. There is a mainstream OS with great driver support and the best gaming performance, that everybody uses (Linux). There are two other OSs battling for survival: One run by open source fanatics that release open source editors, browsers and programming languages and which frantically tries to emulate the mainstream OS (WSL), and one where stuff constantly breaks on upgrades, fundamental hardware like ke…

Linux has the best gaming performance?

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

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post #78

Why disable the TPM? One cool thing you can do is store your SSH private key inside: https://blog.habets.se/2013/11/TPM-chip-protecting-SSH-keys-...

Yes but the TPM can only generate its own RSA key. You can't take an existing private key and store it in the TPM.

That's generally what you want. If the private key only ever existed in the TPM then you know there aren't any copies in an attacker's hands somewhere (ignoring hardware vulnerabilities). But if you copy a key into the TPM, there could have been malware that stole a copy of the key beforehand.

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

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I keep hearing this, and I don't understand it. Windows is just so... messy . At my last job I kept a Windows VM for Skype (S4B) and the odd non-portable app, but I wouldn't want that on bare metal. I don't have experience with Darwin; maybe the experience is better there.

Whenever I try to use linux on hardware, either audio doesn't work without stuttering, video doesn't work without tearing or some package manager dependency issue rears its ugly head. From my perspective, it seems inconceivable to run linux on (personal) hardware. That being said, I am very unhappy with windows 10 at work, and would much rather have some older windows version. At some point windows probably will beco…

What hardware are you installing it on?

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

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I keep hearing this, and I don't understand it. Windows is just so... messy . At my last job I kept a Windows VM for Skype (S4B) and the odd non-portable app, but I wouldn't want that on bare metal. I don't have experience with Darwin; maybe the experience is better there.

Whenever I try to use linux on hardware, either audio doesn't work without stuttering, video doesn't work without tearing or some package manager dependency issue rears its ugly head. From my perspective, it seems inconceivable to run linux on (personal) hardware. That being said, I am very unhappy with windows 10 at work, and would much rather have some older windows version. At some point windows probably will beco…

> video doesn't work without tearing

NVidia, closed blob - no way to fix, contact support

> audio doesn't work without stuttering,

can't remember problems with audio last 5 years.

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

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post #34

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"Stardate 2020. There is a mainstream OS with great driver support and the best gaming performance, that everybody uses (Linux). There are two other OSs battling for survival: One run by open source fanatics that release open source editors, browsers and programming languages and which frantically tries to emulate the mainstream OS (WSL), and one where stuff constantly breaks on upgrades, fundamental hardware like ke…

Linux has the best gaming performance?

Some games see a significant performance boost running through Wine.
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