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Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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Post by tabula »

coldtea wrote: post #192
tabula wrote: post #152

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I’d love to see a cafe (in my area at least) with a very social “hacker” vibe. Used books on all walls, electronic parts to build with, chess sets, events and meetups. A place a kid could come with $15 bucks and find a good tutor maybe (corkboard for community postings, jobs, clubs) I was reading about how back in the day original coffee houses were a meeting place for socialites and thinkers alike to share ideas. I’…

> I was reading about how back in the day original coffee houses were a meeting place for socialites and thinkers alike to share ideas. Some still are in Europe at least. But they're closing down here as victims of modern lifestyles. We had (until the 80s) 4-5 cafes here where everybody who was everybody in culture frequented -- including different generations (20+ to 70+ year old people). Some problems: 1) real esta…

Yeah that makes perfect sense, it is a bit sad to hear that even Europe is losing this part of the culture. We change with the times, of course... I do agree with your point about influencers moving out of city centers and towards more affluent suburbs, it would be interesting to see if there is a market for this after all closer to these areas. Nowadays as you said though, it’s not likely the ROI would surpass that of a retail location or well established franchise sadly.

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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collyw wrote: post #138
nmfisher wrote: post #54

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As someone who still practises IF, I have been wondering if many of the immediate benefits (weight loss, low cholesterol, reduced inflammation markers, etc) are mostly apparent in sedentary, obese people. IF might work brilliantly for them because it's a psychologically "easy" shortcut to fixing a terrible diet. For those of us who are already lean + good diet + high activity levels, I'm not convinced that IF really…

When I do IF it lowers my blood pressure (the only thing I can easily measure). I am pretty healthy, I cycle reasonably hard for 20 minutes twice a day (to work and back) and often more. I eat fairly well and am not overweight. Without IF my blood pressure hovers around the borderline for hypertension (my family has a history). With IF it drops to healthy levels.

Interesting. Are you controlling properly by measuring blood pressure during the eating window?

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Post by masonic »

cptskippy wrote: post #210
masonic wrote: post #201

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my doctor recommended "nuts, beer, wine, and hard liquor" as a way to boost my LDL Did that doctor describe a mechanism of action how hard liquor could be of benefit? Sounds like a quack to me, frankly.

Liquor is a source of good cholesterol so I suspect drinking it? That was my impression.

Liquor has zero cholesterol.

Only animal products have cholesterol.

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Post by collyw »

nmfisher wrote: post #212
collyw wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I do IF it lowers my blood pressure (the only thing I can easily measure). I am pretty healthy, I cycle reasonably hard for 20 minutes twice a day (to work and back) and often more. I eat fairly well and am not overweight. Without IF my blood pressure hovers around the borderline for hypertension (my family has a history). With IF it drops to healthy levels.

Interesting. Are you controlling properly by measuring blood pressure during the eating window?

Nope, I never thought to. I don't measure on fasting days though, just fairly randomly.

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Post by cptskippy »

masonic wrote: post #213
cptskippy wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Liquor is a source of good cholesterol so I suspect drinking it? That was my impression.

Liquor has zero cholesterol. Only animal products have cholesterol.

Like I said, I'm not a doctor and don't have a medical background. I was just sharing an experience I had.

There seems to be research indicating hard liquor and wine positively impact cholesterol levels: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00219...

If you're calling bullshit then call bullshit, but I'm not qualified to answer technical questions about cholesterol and don't feel like being cross examined so that you can feel smug.

So, I guess you won the internet?

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Post by downerending »

monkmartinez wrote: post #14

Anecdote: I tried intermittent fasting for 11 months with very, very little to show for it. I did the 18 hours off and 6 hours of eating plan. I have also tried a strict vegetarian diet for 6 months with no real changes in blood work. My Cholesterol didn't move to the dismay of my PCP and myself quite frankly. Biology: I am a professional Firefighter that ran 1000 miles and bicycled 250 miles during this time frame.…

Pretty cool that we have a firefighter here on HN! What led you here?
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