Query: Good search tools in addition to ddg.gg
I really hate no URL results. I search and obtain URLs all the time. Google is ruined for me.
Google are removing URLs entirely from search results?
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I get the exact same result in Google, so I'm not sure what this proves.
On Google for me, the link is missing. Google also does this fun thing where when you click on the link it invisibly changes in the background to a Google-wrapped URL.[0] If you right-click on the link and select "copy link location", you won't get the result you want, you'll get gibberish. So it proves that you can use DuckDuckGo to immediately get the link with no fuss, and that Google Search is increasingly not de…
Google rewrites URLs to track clicks and improve search, which is mildly annoying but not quite nefarious.
The links obviously works, but if you want it to look nicer, why not just click and get the URL from the browser? That might even be faster depending on device and keyboard/touchscreen/mouse setup and usage.
Re: Google are removing URLs entirely from search results?
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Speaking as an employee at Google (but not for Google; opinions are all my own), I will offer you this anecdote: I have met a lot of people in my career who are motivated to do work for the public good in order for the whole world to benefit (e.g., standards, open source, public speaking/education etc.) and not just one company. I met the vast majority of those people after I joined Google, and many of the others had…
As a counterpoint, consider that just because good people work there does not mean that the company isn't evil. I'm sure there are NSA employees who are nice folks, but that doesn't mean that the organization is good. Even the originator of 'embrace, extend, extinguish' had good people working for them. That doesn't mean that early 2000s Microsoft wasn't a fairly evil organization. To Natella's credit, they have radi…
> As a counterpoint, consider that just because good people work there does not mean that the company isn't evil.
This isn't a comic book or a Marvel movie. Companies are just that, companies. They're incentivized to make money. Google is as evil as BP, Oracle, Microsoft, Apple, Ford or Tesla.
Instead of doing comic book analogies which don't apply to real world, perhaps start thinking in terms of incentives that drive these companies and how you can fix your government regulation to push them to improving your own life.
Re: Google are removing URLs entirely from search results?
#214This is a purely anti-user move. No user gains anything by it, this actually helps phishing sites. Oh, and it happens to help Google's AMP effort, which can now pretend to be the original site even more effectively. Time to get everyone to use Duck Duck Go, and to get rid of those Google CAPTCHAs which are an even bigger data harvesting operation than search.
DDG is a pretty easy switch once you learn how to use bang searches. DDG usually finds what I'm looking for, but in the rare occasion it doesn't I just add !g to the search and it takes me to google.
Re: Google are removing URLs entirely from search results?
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But I couldn't help but think that Google really doesn't want me even going to the actual URL. I've stated this before, but it bears repeating: Google does not make money from you finding what you're looking for. Google only makes money from you hunting for what you're looking for.
Same problem dating sites ran into.
That is a very interesting insight. To take your insight and to rephrase it a bit: any two sided marketplace that trades on the time that you are engaged with it is not served by giving you what you need right away.
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> Keep in mind that not sending your data to Google is not a > real option, there are several government services, health > care providers and utility companies using reCAPTCHA, > you personal data either gets harvested by Google, > or you're barred from accessing essential online services. Google is not the problem, the government services, health care providers, and utility companies are the problem. You will need…
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#217Google just last week announced a drop in profit, so expect more of these types of “optimizations” over the coming months. Over the past 6 months they’ve already increased the font size of SERPs, made their ads look even more similar to organic results, and started showing multiple results from the same site in the top 5 results for highly competitive terms. All of these “optimizations” are designed to encourage more…
But isn't Google going to realize that there isn't such a thing as infinite growth? I get that they got used to tremendous growth in the early days. But it has to stop at some point. Same is true for the economy (we "fix" that with inflation). And they're probably going to be split up before they reach the theoritical maximum. Couldn't they just be nice neighbors and not squeeze the last drop of milk out of us. I'd w…
> But isn't Google going to realize that there isn't such a thing as infinite growth?
Google (and other corps) will realize that when stock market will stop demanding infinite growh and not a cent sooner. Leaderships don't get paid in user happiness, they get rewarded by stock value. And stock market demands infinite unbounded growth for all eternity.
Re: Google are removing URLs entirely from search results?
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The canonical way is " rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/> - though it doesn't actually seem to work here. Whatever, just use and spaces.
Re: Google are removing URLs entirely from search results?
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Do we have any recourse against this monopoly, other than voicing our concerns repeatedly while they ignore us? Can we launch a class action lawsuit against Google if they harm people by limiting consumer choice, and force us to be tracked everywhere using reCAPTCHA v3 and various other methods? Keep in mind that not sending your data to Google is not a real option, there are several government services, health care…
"Do we have any recourse against this monopoly, other than voicing our concerns repeatedly while they ignore us?" There are a lot of Google employees (and potential Google employees) on HN. So if "we" includes them, then yes, "we" could do a lot... like not work for Google.
They could do something better than resigning: voice their concerns both internally and in public. I have yet to see a HN comment posted by a current Google employee that has criticized Google's data harvesting practices or monopolistic behavior.