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This probably has something to do with the fact the discounted additional tax liability for leased Teslas will go away soon and everybody planning to lease a Tesla from that moment will need to pay more taxes.
So everybody who wants a Tesla is signing leasing contracts for them like crazy right now.
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Anecdotally, around 40% of the electricity in Germany was generated from coal in 2018, but in january 2019, a group of federal and state leaders as well as industry representatives, environmentalists, and scientists made an agreement to close all 84 coal plants in the country by 2038.[1] Just as in many other parts of the world, expanding electrical consumption through electric vehicles does not make sense if we also…
They will then import the coal power from Poland :)
The problem is profitability and, at present levels of profitability, the current stock price is not at all justified.
A model 3 without incentives doesn't make any sense for 95% of buyers.
Those tax incentives are yet another way for middle//upper rich families to have the government (and taxpayer money) pay for their toys through loopholes. I really don't see why their should be a special tax incentive on green vehicle.
Tax gas more if you want to work on global warming
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In the short term, it does absolutely make sense to use electric vehicles. The critical goal is to further develop electric cars so they become the obvious choice for consumers. As we go from a few million EVs to tens of millions, it is of course important to move towards cleaner electricity.
> The critical goal is to further develop electric cars so they become the obvious choice for consumers. should be The critical goal is to further reduce CO2 in the atmosphere .
There is absolutely no conflict of goals here. The faster we can transition the better.
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In Germany - as well as in some other countries - the problem is not only generation of electricity, but the capacity to transfer it. There may be lots of renewables, but not way to transfer it to consumers because of not enough capacity in the grid. There is lots of public resistance to expanding the grid (mostly along the lines of "not in my backyard").
Also bringing the necessary capacity for proper charging to the average underground parking of a building costs tens of thousands of Euros per parking spot (numbers I got from the electricity distribution company). That's an investment most people are simply not willing to make especially when renting. What would be the reason for people to oppose developing the grid, especially as NIMBY? Other than the obvious cost…
The elephant in the room is that most of those sales would never happen without the tax incentives. A model 3 without incentives doesn't make any sense for 95% of buyers. Those tax incentives are yet another way for middle//upper rich families to have the government (and taxpayer money) pay for their toys through loopholes. I really don't see why their should be a special tax incentive on green vehicle. Tax gas more…
The elephant in the room is that most of those sales would never happen without the tax incentives. A model 3 without incentives doesn't make any sense for 95% of buyers. Those tax incentives are yet another way for middle//upper rich families to have the government (and taxpayer money) pay for their toys through loopholes. I really don't see why their should be a special tax incentive on green vehicle. Tax gas more…
There are very legitimate reasons for the government to incentivize EVs, even if only middle or upper class people buy them.
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Anecdotally, around 40% of the electricity in Germany was generated from coal in 2018, but in january 2019, a group of federal and state leaders as well as industry representatives, environmentalists, and scientists made an agreement to close all 84 coal plants in the country by 2038.[1] Just as in many other parts of the world, expanding electrical consumption through electric vehicles does not make sense if we also…
They will then import the coal power from Poland :)
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That’s no surprise, since Norwegian government heavily penalizes ICE vehicles, and advantages the electric cars. No VAT, no CO2 tax, and lots of other incentives are involved. If your goal is to upgrade your country’s vehicle fleet to electric, then Norway is a good example that with enough government spending it can happen. Don’t mistake it for “normal people jumping onboard electric train”, though, they are jumping…
Also, price of gas is 2.5x higher in Norway than somewhere like the USA. If you're in the USA and fill your tank once a week, you probably spend ~$2000/yr in gas. And that's how much you'd save in gas if you went electric. In areas with higher fuel prices, the incentive is proportionally larger. (That's ignoring the cost of paying your electric bill, not sure if that changes the math much..)
I probably spend around $1500/year on gas with my 17-25mpg Jeep.
Honestly, Tesla really still can’t compete with the fact I have to haul stuff and drive a few hundred miles. so not an option for me anyway.
[1] https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/Norway/gasoline_prices/