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What’s good career advice you wouldn’t want to have your name on?

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Chaos is opportunity: If you want to learn a lot of things and gain a lot of responsibility quickly, work in an organization or area where the roles and processes are poorly defined. You'll be given responsibility for anything you take on and don't screw up, and you can use that experience to either move up in the organization or move to another organization that's maybe a little less chaotic.

+1

Chaos is a ladder.

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A great lesson to learn as early as possible. Your boss may be good in a very niche space but a horrible, demented human being and functional alcoholic. Get away from him/her as quickly as possible. You will lose years of productive growth trying to "solve" them for the good of the business and relationship.

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I strongly disagree. Many many jobs, especially the higher paying ones, are bullshit jobs. Real work to actually improve the world doesn't tend to make a whole lot of money, it's much easier to lobby for bureaucratic inefficiencies you can inhabit, create artificial scarcity, gamble with other people's money, or outright scam people. Look at the web. There's a ton of jobs (many would say a nigh-overfull bubble's wort…

I work for Google and Google has a lot of products that has improved my life immensely. Google maps, Google search, Google docs, gmail and Youtube are all very useful products, especially for poor people who can't afford paid options. I don't feel bad in the slightest for working to improve them. People say that Google does questionable things but I haven't seen any of it. Of course as a bottom-up organization it is…

One example doesn't make his comment invalid.

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How is it misogyny? Do you work where I work? I feel weird even saying it because it does feel misogynistic but it matches my actual experience at my current job.

It's not "career advice" - i.e., something people can contemplate and act on to improve their career. It's just inflammatory social commentary.

You are right about that. It was a bit tongue-in-cheek but it's obviously very poor advice.

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What other advice do you have?

One I forgot but also in one of the other comments: take your time doing tasks and always look busy. Never rush to complete projects unless doing so gets you political points. Keeping a slow pace of work while looking like working a lot is key. Make many small commits and push them up either all at the end of the day or periodically throughout. Prepare work for a few days ahead if possible and push it up incrementall…

This sounds exactly like the Gervais Principle, aka Mgmt Strategies as demonstrated by The Office:

https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-...

Mostly a joke... but still painfully accurate at times.

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If you find yourself alone around a woman you work with, leave the room, building, or do whatever you can to not be alone with them.

I'd say the opposite. Exploitation of this sort is vanishingly rare. It isn't worth optimizing for. Instead, be incredibly normal with everyone, girls and boys alike. Maybe you like their clothes, or you wonder how their vacation was, or you just want to share this new restaurant you like. If you're likable, people literally will not believe you could do bad things. If, for some reason, a cosmic ray hits the universe…

" If you're likable, people literally will not believe you could do bad things."

This is based around if you are attractive.

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If ethical breaches cause you to escalate to this level of drama, may I ask in what sector you are employed? In my own industry I see breaches like this as a matter of habit and I can't even imagine being generally employed in IT if this bothers you. Unless of course you have really lax ethical standards compared to mine. That's also an option.

I work in security. If you're in an environment where serious ethical failure happens on the regular I would encourage you to get out. There are plenty of jobs, including in IT, where the worst you'll see is self-serving lies and corporate doublespeak. As for my standards being laxer than yours, well, I don't know you.

So do I!

I'm definitely looking to transition to a more healthy environment, but so far every place I have visited has a similar terrible attitude to the practicalities of security and handling breaches. I have asked for clarification by legal sources many times, but this appears to be legal, with the obvious exception of the illegal things. Those are not legal but they don't have a governing body that actively punishes transgressions. It also appears to be widespread. Perhaps I just live in the wrong country :)

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