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Post by mseidl »

skellera wrote: post #124
jasoneckert wrote: post #99

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I love how any post I make that is critical of something Apple always gets me some negative points here on Hacker News - I actually made a point of showing my tech class this social phenomenon a few weeks back and we had a good discussion that explored possible reasons why it happens.

No one is going to disagree that you could build the same thing for cheaper and the point has been made over and over again. Apple isn’t selling for your use case.

It's actually reasonably priced compared to other workstations. Plus, I'm pretty sure you get the accelerator card which is pretty amazing.

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Post by yitchelle »

pier25 wrote: post #111
Corrado wrote: post #103

I think they should include Apple Care for their professional equipment. This won't put any any more money in Apple's pocket but I could see it being another differentiator and a good bit of PR, especially to all of those price arguments. Plus, it's only $300 and I'm sure Apple could suffer that "loss" on a $6,000 - $30,000 purchase.

I've always argued that for the prices that Apple charges Apple Care should be included in all its products. The first Apple computers I bought lasted for years and I never thought Apple Care was necessary, but since the fiasco with the 2011 MBP and the butterfly keyboards I'm not buying another of its products without Apple Care. Yes, Apple ended up doing the right thing in both cases but it took years after the pro…

Apple care should not cover things that are flaws in the design caused by Apple.

These type of design flaws should be fixed up as part of their normal warranty process.

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Post by wyclif »

valbaca wrote: post #70
lliamander wrote: post #49

Slightly off-topic, but who here uses a HEDT (high-end desktop) or workstation computer for software development? Does it make a significant difference in comparison with a standard business laptop?

My company provides a pretty standard laptop, but they rarely have more than 2 cores. In native app development, Android Studio and Xcode are severely bottlenecked by 2 cores. The difference between my laptop and my Mac Mini (6 cores) is astounding. The difference between a build taking 6x minutes and 1x minutes is more than just 1/6 because it goes from "Well, guess I'll check email/messenger/HN real quick." to taki…

The 2018, 6 core Mac Mini is underrated for use as a HEDT in my opinion. It's surprisingly powerful and silent. I really have to thrash something to even get the fans to spin up.

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Post by tdsamardzhiev »

_bxg1 wrote: post #115
kbumsik wrote: post #110

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I don't have an HEDT but an outdated Haswell i5 laptop (not an Ultra Low Voltage model at least, so it's quite fast). Last year I spotted a bug in Firefox and I though it was time to put a line in the contribution section in my resume. The contribution experience was a nightmare because a full build of Firefox took 3 hrs and running the entire testing framework took 4 hrs, though it turned out that I needed to run on…

Woof. I wasn't aware compilation times got that long for people who aren't building a whole OS.

Well I work in games and building our thing without distributed compilation is inconceivable.

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Post by readbeard »

kristianp wrote: post #196
readbeard wrote: post #73

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I am working on a project right now where I am rendering atmospheric effects (lots of clouds). Even on a 12-core workstation, it takes a very long time to render a single frame to even be able to get a good idea as to what things will look like, so I'm doing a lot of changing something, waiting… changing something, waiting. Most of the final rendering can be offloaded to a farm, but being able to quickly and interact…

I'm curious, is gpu-based rendering not an option for you?

Not for the renderer I am using (Terragen), which has specialized features for rendering skies. I do normally use GPU rendering when it is an option though.

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Post by timwaagh »

lliamander wrote: post #49

Slightly off-topic, but who here uses a HEDT (high-end desktop) or workstation computer for software development? Does it make a significant difference in comparison with a standard business laptop?

I did once. It was wonderful not having to take the thing home.

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AmericanChopper wrote: post #187
xupybd wrote: post #177

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We do have very high retail mark ups. Perhaps this is due to that law. But it is very nice protection to live under.

Aside from the additional taxation and regulations in NZ, it does have some pretty unavoidable issues which drive up the prices of consumer goods. It’s a very small market, and very far away. Getting things there is just going to cost more anyway, and the market isn’t big enough to invite significant competition, so there’s usually a large (or at least larger than a lot of other places) markup on imported goods.

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Post by yitchelle »

kbumsik wrote: post #110
lliamander wrote: post #49

Slightly off-topic, but who here uses a HEDT (high-end desktop) or workstation computer for software development? Does it make a significant difference in comparison with a standard business laptop?

I don't have an HEDT but an outdated Haswell i5 laptop (not an Ultra Low Voltage model at least, so it's quite fast). Last year I spotted a bug in Firefox and I though it was time to put a line in the contribution section in my resume. The contribution experience was a nightmare because a full build of Firefox took 3 hrs and running the entire testing framework took 4 hrs, though it turned out that I needed to run on…

Are compile farm still relevant in these type of scenario these days?

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Post by maaaats »

NullPrefix wrote: post #192
lostlogin wrote: post #129

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It presumably is in some areas. In New Zealand we have The Consumer Guarantees Act. Things are expected to have a reasonable life span. What this means is not specified but is generally accepted to be relative to the price paid (eg if it’s expensive, it should last). It’s a fantastic piece of legislation. I’ve had a 2.5 year old iPhone covered for example.

>relative to the price paid TV set you get on Black Friday works until X-mas. It was a bargain, what did you expect? That discount you got on your car? You think it was because of your outstanding negotiation skills? Think again, the seller swapped a cheaper bifurcator, meaning your mileage will suffer. But is it wrong? You got a discount. If you sell it, if needs to be good. If it is not good, you cannot sell it. Th…

In Norway, it's not based on the price, but the product type. So TVs in general are said to last at least 5 years. So if you sell a cheap tv that breaks after 4 years, you have to replace it.

This of course means one don't get as much ultra cheap stuff sold, but at the same time most of that stuff is crap, and it's better for the environment to build stuff that lasts.

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