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Three counting google go, gcc-go and llvm-go. Last I checked the latter two were quite incomplete.

Gcc-go lags behind, but is official and kept complete. Llvm-go is unofficial.

Honestly, I would expect compilers to lag behind the official Go compiler, unless the Go core maintainers were to release specs before they implement new features. It wouldn't do those projects good to just implement upcoming features that might not make it though.

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The FAQ mentions security. We've been working with a security consultant for over a year. One of the reasons we're in private beta is that we need to get security right before we're generally available.

No, it does not. The word is not used anywhere on the page. There is a mention about privacy, PII, GDPR, Audit logs etc. and how that's not implemented yet. If that's what you meant, fair enough. Still a bit scared for your initial beta users running their business on this as mentioned elsewhere.

Oh, so it doesn't! Sorry, I meant to check before pressing send but got ahead of myself. We do quite a lot of security work - it's probably the one area we don't cut scope on. Someone reported a security bug today and we fixed it immediately.

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I watched the videos and read the blog post. My response is equal parts amazement and skepticism. They poked fun at Kubernetes but what they have is something less transparent (more magic) and requires you to learn a new language and way of working. I'd be much more receptive if the option was there to peek under the covers and let me use my own language. I'm also curious how this would work in a CI/CD environment inside enterprises that require it. This all being said, I signed up for the beta and look forward to kicking the tires.

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Does (or will) Dark have a light mode? Given the name and seeing the dark mode screenshots in the article, I wonder. This is an honest worry for an older developer like me. When you're young, your eyes can focus on just about anything. This changes as you get older. A dark mode causes your pupils to open wider, where a light mode gets them to stop down. And if your lenses are imperfect, stopping down helps make thing…

Amen to this (from a 50+ yr old).

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I can deploy a Docker-based node backend with basic functionality from my phone's ssh client in five minutes.

Give me a bit more time, a keyboard and I could build you any API endpoint, http server, glue code between DB or even low level proxy server functionalities.

No offense but isn't the 'problem' backend solved years ago?

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I think the fact it maintains the "backend/frontend" separation makes it an awkward product solution imo. Dark being a proprietary language means most "experienced" or "full-time" software engineers probably won't touch it. You can get pretty close to "deployless" with FaaS services now anyways in whatever language you like. So if this is being targeted toward low-experience/no-experience developers that just want to…

It seems that darklang goes one step further than your average faas: every new code you write is deployed as you write it without any explicit deploy action, but the design of the Lang/IDE ensures new code is always behind a feature flag that makes that new behavior visible only to you until you decide to expand the audience until eventually reaching 100% of the users. You can do that with any language and any server…

Nice username.

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You're never going to wrestle anyone who experienced more than one tech hype cycle into such a stark vendor lock-in situation.

Yes, of course HNers are too wise to be taken by simple vendor lock-in! Facebook is closing Parse (parse.com) 1202 points by theunquietone on Jan 28, 2016 | hide | past | web | favorite | 500 comments https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10991729 ...oh. ;-)

Is your point that they'll fall for it again?

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Go - OK, it has one implementation (open-source), but it's backed by one big player (Google) and used by many others... also the simplicity at core design decisions sound like the kind of choices that would make an alternative compiler easier to implement than for other languages Rust - pretty fast growing open-source community despite only one implementation... but yeah I'm sort of worried that Rust is a "hard to im…

> with maybe a not high enough bus factor I'm assuming you don't mean the traditional bus factor, but one of alternative implementations? Rust (and from what I can tell after short research Julia at least partially too) has quite a big development team that is supported by many different companies with no benevolent dictator, so I don't see a big bus factor risk.

Julia actually has a pretty high bus factor in comparison to most other Github projects. This was demonstrated during Heather Miller's (of Scala Fame) talk at JuliaCon 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_743P8XuvA

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