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Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by wlesieutre »

shantly wrote: post #179
wlesieutre wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FaceID works a lot better with gloves on than TouchID did.

My TouchID drops to like a 10% success rate if the humidity's much different from it was on whatever day I set it up. Or if I've done any work with my hands in the last week or so and roughed my fingers up a bit. Or if I've looked at water in the last hour. I've configured it several times and it never gets much better. I end up using the code most of the time. Probably need to just disable it, it fails so consistent…

I don’t have humidity problems but it’s a nuisance in the kitchen if I have a recipe up on the iPad. Whatever’s on my hands I have to wash off and then thoroughly dry. Depending on how messy my hands are, sometimes I’ll swipe sideways and type in the passcode with a clean knuckle.

If I didn’t need clean fingers to unlock TouchID to begin with, iPad OS’s new voice control accessibility feature would be great for in the kitchen. No need to touch the tablet at all any more.

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Post by eyquem »

Apocryphon wrote: post #17
bryanlarsen wrote: post #14

Presumably Apple doesn't make a new SE because it would kill their margins. And it'd be hard for them to make the SE expensive because it would probably be thicker, with a cheaper screen, worse battery life and worse performance (because of battery & cooling). But I'm sure they could come up with some semi-plausible reason to make an "SE Pro" so they can keep those margins. How about owning the extra thickness and gi…

Pretty insane that the most profitable company in the (history of the?) world is so risk adverse so as to obsess about margins.

I understand the obsession with margins, but at this point they're really taking risks with brand loyalty.

My 2009 MacBook Pro could still handle pretty much any 2019 computing I need to do, but the new OSs won't support it. That's understandable really, but how sorry is it that the 2019 keyboard is so bad that I prefer my 2009 model, even though it's slower to wake and boot.

My SE handles all phone tasks I throw at it, no problem (maybe the battery life could be better), but I hate all the new models. Apple pretty much perfected the laptop around 2014 and the phone with the SE in 2016. These are classic styles that were the culmination of a decade of design tweaks and component improvements. Each of those older generations could have been maintained with no more than small improvements in components (e.g., SSD) and ports going forward (until some kind of revolution in computing interfaces) and they would have happier customers.

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Post by robocat »

RandomBacon wrote: post #98
js2 wrote: post #35

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They still make the iPod touch. It even has an A10 in it. The 128 GB model is $299. The 128 GB iPhone 8 is $499 with an A11. They don't have to sell a new iPhone SE for less for $499. I'd pay that for it. Small is a premium. But would selling it at $399 really kill their margins? Edit: the iPhone 8 64GB refurb pricing is now $379. That's a pretty good deal: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/FQ6K2LL/A/Refurbished-iPh…

Is it possible to have a softphone app on the iPod Touch? You would just need a wireless hotspot that the iPod would always be connected to, to use it as a phone (or maybe people can start bucking the trend of always being connected). It's the same size as the SE, except a hair thinner, and has a 3.5mm headphone jack! spec comparison: https://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Apple-iPhone-SE,Ap...

Get an Apple watch with cellular, and tether an iPod touch to it?

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Post by PaulHoule »

huhtenberg wrote: post #60
stephc_int13 wrote: post #38

My SE will probably be my last iOS device. iOS used to be much better than competition, but I don't think that's the case now. I never liked big-ass phones, and in my opinion the best iPhone design was the iPhone4, this one was a real masterpiece. But I won't pay a premium for a phone I don't like, when my SE will no longer do its job, it will be replaced by a cheap Android device.

Amen on the masterpiece. I'm precisely in the same boat, but what are the iOS alternatives? There are none. Wouldn't touch anything Android with a long pole, because it has Google attached to it. Windows phone is a joke (if it still exists)... and there's nothing else that's not a dumb phone, is there?

Windows phone is long gone because u.s. carriers refuse to support them.

One way Windows failed as a mobile OS is large storage requirements; "bloat" is one thing but a safe and reliable 'update' system adds overhead that made cheap Win mobiles marginal.

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Post by davej »

I've been stuck on the iPhone SE since release and refuse to switch even though the home button is broken. I would consider switching to Android if a manufacturer released a premium phone with SE-like dimensions. There's literally nothing on the market with a decent spec anymore. "Compact" phones now have screens that are > 6 inches.

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Post by jimbob45 »

saagarjha wrote: post #141
vadansky wrote: post #125

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I keep having to ask this every thread, but you know you can double tap the home button and it will bring the screen half way down so you can reach easier. I have no problem using my 8 one handed, and can even use it one handed while biking

> can even use it one handed while biking Please don't :(

Back in the good days, I could text one-handed blindly while biking thanks to the T9 keyboard system.

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Post by bullen »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #38

My SE will probably be my last iOS device. iOS used to be much better than competition, but I don't think that's the case now. I never liked big-ass phones, and in my opinion the best iPhone design was the iPhone4, this one was a real masterpiece. But I won't pay a premium for a phone I don't like, when my SE will no longer do its job, it will be replaced by a cheap Android device.

I'm still using my iPhone 4S, but I have a Samsung S9 for backup in case it should fail. The power button is already gone, but I use the charging cable to power it on and pull the battery to power it off!

I changed the battery on the 4S three times.

Last year I meet a translator from Russia who had a 3GS with the original battery! That really made me regret I sent in my original iPod Nano when Apple said the batteries where dangerous and replaced them with a 6th gen for free, who's battery died only a year later!

Now we know why, you can't sell light bulbs that last forever because the customer won't come back... one gen later the iPad Nano was gone from the market.

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Post by EForEndeavour »

akhilcacharya wrote: post #58
flyinglizard wrote: post #36

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But if you're in a pool with your family and want to take a photo, TouchID isn't going to work. And if you've been running and sweating and want to unlock your phone, many times it won't work. And if you're riding your bike in the woods and want to unlock it - right, gloves...

You can take a photo without logging in just by swiping right

By swiping (to the) left.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by rbrbr »

And don’t forget that a new iPhone with the size of an SE but design of the X would have a display size of around the iPhone 6/7/8 and make those phones entirely obsolete yet being smaller.
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